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RockRaven

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110. Nope. Because I will not believe any of them are actually appropriately sorry.

Mon Jun 1, 2026, 02:18 PM

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It was repeatedly, REPEATEDLY explained to them in every possible way and by every possible method, AND they lived through it once, and then they did it again.

There is no believable "oh, I made a mistake, and I understand that now" for situations like that. It just doesn't fit with all of the other evidence/behavior. This wasn't "a mistake" and it wasn't accidental or incidental brief behavior. It was a persistent way of being, year on year, for a decade in many cases.

Regrets are not remorse. They have regrets, certainly. Claims of remorse, genuine fucking remorse (such as characterized by empathetic recognition of having caused harm to others and emotional distress at having failed moral standards), are not plausible. So fuck them, no forgiving and no forgetting.

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Can you ever forgive MAGA voters? [View all] kentuck Monday OP

I'll NEVER FORGET, that's for sure (in some views, that means I never really forgive, so... ) hlthe2b Monday #1

Forgive? Perhaps ProfessorGAC Monday #2

Not at this stage of the game. Junipercity Monday #88

I'm afraid Mad_Machine76 Monday #126

I don't know many people like those you described.. MineralMan Monday #3

My late Mother was a huge Trump supporter from the instant he came on the political scene. COL Mustard Monday #57

Very sad for you... some_of_us_are_sane Monday #113

No HappyH Monday #4

NO durablend Monday #5

I cut myself loose from those people long ago. Ritabert Monday #6

Talk to me after all their shit is cleaned up Alpeduez21 Monday #7

NOPE. n/t Coventina Monday #8

NOPE! bluestarone Monday #9

I dont care about your past so much as SSJVegeta Monday #10

Fuck trump voters.. thomski64 Monday #11

HELL to the NO IzzaNuDay Monday #12

Forgiveness benefits me, so yes. catrose Monday #13

I can forgive those that solely got their info from right wing media only to discover other points of view AStern Monday #14

They don't even exist in the same (real) world underpants Monday #40

Have a buddy who is a Trumper/Fox guy FHRRK1 Monday #103

That's a reasonable response... some_of_us_are_sane Monday #116

Fuck them! 3_Limes Monday #15

This! Besides; they will follow the next con artist Blaukraut 18 hrs ago #170

Nope. Fuck em. CanonRay Monday #16

Nope Quiet Em Monday #17

Only if obnoxiousdrunk Monday #18

Fuck no! Aristus Monday #19

It Feels Like an Awfully Big Stretch to Actually Forgive Unthinking, Mentally-lazy Propaganda Addicts The Roux Comes First Monday #20

I feel sorry for their delusions... Soul_of_Wit Monday #21

People who voted for Trump after hearing him brag about grabbing women and watching him mock the disabled reporter? dalton99a Monday #22

Absolutely not. MontanaMama Monday #23

No. LoisB Monday #24

No -- they are enemies to all free and peace loving people Ponietz Monday #25

no. rampartd Monday #26

Easy answer- nope chicoescuela Monday #27

I don't think they knew. They have no moral or intellectual compass. They thought Trump was cool. bucolic_frolic Monday #28

His appeal to them all was his racism and sexism, and though many Scrivener7 Monday #29

HELL NO! Chasstev365 Monday #30

Fuck NO. FoxNewsSucks Monday #31

No. Bettie Monday #32

Fuck no Aviation Pro Monday #33

NEVER! zanana1 Monday #34

No nt lark Monday #35

After a very long time. Punishing has to happen. Blue Full Moon Monday #36

No underpants Monday #37

Forgive? No way in hell Grim Chieftain Monday #38

As citizens, we all have a duty to... BH liberal Monday #39

Only if they promise to NEVER VOTE AGAIN! EastBayGuy Monday #41

NO. I'm nearer to the end of my life than the beginning and for the remainder of it.. CousinIT Monday #42

Hell yes orangecrush Monday #43

I'm with you Martin Eden Yesterday #156

No, especially the ones who voted for Luciferous Monday #44

NO Liberal In Red State Monday #45

Not really - there's "Friends and Family ".. haele Monday #46

HELL NO! Emile Monday #47

uhmmm sagetea Monday #48

Never, nope, and hell no. kairos12 Monday #49

Can't forgive yankee87 Monday #50

Nope vapor2 Monday #51

They voted for Cancer... Escape Monday #52

NO!!!!!! aeromanKC Monday #53

After they enabled the destruction of our Democracy, took food from the mouth of babies, end USAID Old-8643 Monday #54

Yes - On a case by case basis. ihaveaquestion Monday #55

My personal take TheProle Monday #56

Thanks for the oasis of rational thinking orangecrush Monday #70

FUCK that Skittles Yesterday #143

"What matters is course-correction for future generations." Martin Eden Yesterday #158

Nope, I have distanced myself from them. I will be polite but that's it. Everyone knew the reputation TommieMommy Monday #58

They weren't just ignorant. They embraced willful ignorance. DeeDeeNY Monday #59

Their embracing of willful ignorance is something La Coliniere Yesterday #153

This is a joke, right? Ol Janx Spirit Monday #60

It's on an almost case-by-case basis. BobTheSubgenius Monday #61

I can forgive but never trust their judgement again kimbutgar Monday #62

I have family I love who are trump supporters LuvLoogie Monday #63

You perfectly capture the feelings I have toward my MAGA family members. callous taoboy Yesterday #148

Forgive? Dave Id Monday #64

Forgiveness drmeow Monday #65

I'm perfectly happy to add to the many No votes here. NNadir Monday #66

No. hamsterjill Monday #67

After three elections involving this asshole? Fuck no. W_HAMILTON Monday #68

Nope. MaeScott Monday #69

Polls show that MAGA voters still support Trump Kaleva Monday #71

NO! virgdem Monday #72

Not unless they make SERIOUS reparations Wicked Blue Monday #73

NO!!! CaptainTruth Monday #74

Depends upon how contrite/sincere they are RussBLib Monday #75

Cry me a fucking river, magats. Gaytano70 Monday #76

Maybe. In about a thousand years (or longer), mwmisses4289 Monday #77

So we had a former friend of the family turned magat contact us the other day GoodRaisin Monday #78

No, I view them the same as rabid nazis who supported Hitler Mysterian Monday #79

Good analogy! kentuck Monday #94

Can you ever forgive MAGA voters? NO! aggiesal Monday #80

I have low tolerance for willfull ignorance. lpbk2713 Monday #81

No, they still love him. dem4decades Monday #82

I feel like it doesn't matter, they've always been there FullySupportDems Monday #83

I already have, for the most part Warpy Monday #84

I don't know. barbtries Monday #85

No. lizardkingjr Monday #86

Recommended. H2O Man Monday #87

The ones i know i already broke off with long ago. Figarosmom Monday #89

I am lucky enough not to have any Trumpers in my immediate life. ShazzieB Monday #90

No. Never. maspaha Monday #91

Let me know how they vote in the next few elections. n/t flvegan Monday #92

Yes, if they confess their sin and sincerely ask for forgiveness surfered Monday #93

According to the Catholic official Rite of Penance, forgiveness requires penitents to go through four steps: sop Monday #95

HELL NO. That is all. Not ever. NEVER!! LSparkle Monday #96

Why were they terribly wrong??? rogue emissary Monday #97

Maybe I understand forgiveness in a different way. I see at as an inner release of people who have wronged me. PatrickforB Monday #98

We have our own MAGA-type problem brewing here with Platner. jmbar2 Monday #99

Actions do speak louder than words... sarisataka Monday #108

No freakin way...plus... MiHale Monday #100

The primaries tell a different story... lame54 Monday #101

Forgive? NEVER!!!!! LilElf70 Monday #102

That is like asking me if I forgive Sirhan Bishara Sirhan or Mark David Chapman DFW Monday #104

No. Just as I will never forgive the "butter emails" crowd, or the "she's a warmonger" crowd... QueerDuck Monday #105

Yes! I think if I started adding to that list I'd get too worked up... betsuni Yesterday #167

I know not a single one with regrets. maxsolomon Monday #106

Despite all of the strong denials sarisataka Monday #107

Willful ignorance is not forgivable. 3825-87867 Monday #109

100% that!!! oasis Monday #127

Nope. Because I will not believe any of them are actually appropriately sorry. RockRaven Monday #110

No, I don't mgardener Monday #111

To me, there is a difference between regret and remorse. Of those people who regret their alwaysinasnit Monday #112

NO CharleyDog Monday #114

Bodily autonomy, & the abortion issue, I was already having difficulty socializing with republicans. CrispyQ Monday #115

They will have to deserve it, and then ask for forgiveness biophile Monday #117

If we can't unite against the tyrants, oligarchs, policies, etc. that harm us, snot Monday #118

Exactly Martin Eden Yesterday #159

no ShepKat Monday #119

Do not underestimate how much THEY HATE US ThoughtCriminal Monday #120

Many still support him pattyloutwo Monday #121

Sadly, two of my three my kids voted for Trump hurl Monday #122

No! There are obligations for the privilege of living in a democracy Attilatheblond Monday #123

No, massive damage has already been done mvd Monday #124

I'm not sure Mad_Machine76 Monday #125

Fool you once, shame on you Johonny Monday #128

Forgive? It's really not appropriate, for me, anyway. vanlassie Monday #129

Nope. They may be disappointed, but they are still MAGA/Tea Party/3%/Militia/Bugaloo/Proud Boys and ... marble falls Monday #130

NOPE. buzzycrumbhunger Monday #131

It's like a complete identity thing for them and so I don't know if it'll change oldmanlynn Monday #132

yeh , NO dweller Monday #133

Nope. The racist morons knew what they were voting for. Dave Bowman Yesterday #134

F-'EM! czarjak Yesterday #135

HELL TO THE NO! Blue Owl Yesterday #136

Sure, I can forgive Fred and Barney Beringia Yesterday #137

No forgiveness unless they actively work to try to undo the VTderry Yesterday #138

"They have deep regret and they want off the ship"? red dog 1 Yesterday #139

They're not asking, and I'm not offering. Mike Niendorff Yesterday #140

No. sakabatou Yesterday #141

NO Skittles Yesterday #142

It depends on the reason for their remorse DFW Yesterday #144

it's not just America they damaged Skittles Yesterday #145

There is that as well, but they cannot vote in our elections DFW Yesterday #146

repukes will NEVER be able to "repay" the damage they have done Skittles 21 hrs ago #168

There is not enough tea in all of China? DFW 18 hrs ago #169

Perhaps when my MAGA family members are on their death beds. callous taoboy Yesterday #147

Depends on when they redeemed themselves Polybius Yesterday #149

Forgive those who know not what they do Martin Eden Yesterday #150

No no a thousand times no. Never forgive, never forgetj Trueblue1968 Yesterday #151

Absolutely. mahina Yesterday #152

I live in a mixed Florida neighborhood PCB66 Yesterday #154

No- Real harm was done tulipsandroses Yesterday #155

Never. All 87 million+ voters need to "take one for the team." Efilroft Sul Yesterday #157

Anyone remotely rationale would have concluded long ago that Donald Trump is unfit for the job of president. waterwatcher123 Yesterday #160

Thinking about sending my Talibangelical Maga relatives an image of my Satanic Temple card. Girard442 Yesterday #161

Not a snowballs chance in h... redstatebluegirl Yesterday #162

I never bought into the whole "Christian" forgiveness thing... Trueblue Texan Yesterday #163

NO! happy feet Yesterday #164

Nope Deep State Witch Yesterday #165

Its the MS media that I cannot forgive dclarston13 Yesterday #166