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krawhitham

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188. It also saved the ACA

Mon Jun 1, 2026, 11:08 AM

6 hrs ago

When Franken resigned, polling shows Jones losing. Roy Moore, a known PEDOPHILE was leading in the polls

Local TV stations in Alabama were running stories like "Dems are do as I say not as I do", over the Franken accusations

That gave Moore a clear lead in the election in Dec

Emerson +9
CBS News +6
Strategy Research +7

Franken knew if he resigned he would be replace by a Democrat, to ensure that when he announced on December 7, 2017 he would resign, be made his resignation date January 2, 2018. After Tim Waltz would start the job
https://ballotpedia.org/Resignation_of_Al_Franken,_2018

After Franken resigned the winds moved fast in Alabama, most polling showed Jones down a lot just days before the election. but 5 days after Al fell on his sword Jones rallied and barely won the election by a mere 1.5%.

How sad is it that a democrat could only beat a KNOWN PEDOPHILE by 1.5% in Alabama?

Franken resigning helped Jones win, and Jones' vote saved the ACA, PERIOD

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Re Platner - We can bask in our purity [View all] orangecrush Yesterday OP

Replay of Rep. Anthony Weiner. no_hypocrisy Yesterday #1

Weiner actually got some prison time LisaL Yesterday #17

Weiner went to jail for sexting a 15 year old EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #20

Anthony Weiner sent dick pictures while he was IN congress. He was caught, and did it again. And was caught again. Fil1957 Yesterday #21

Not to mention when he did it again, he HURT HRC's 2016 Campaign karynnj Yesterday #29

As far as I can tell, people who do it, usually can't stop. LisaL Yesterday #33

It really cost him everything he most cared about karynnj Yesterday #37

Oh yeah, forgot that he might have cost HRC the election. Fil1957 Yesterday #39

I could never forget that one. LisaL Yesterday #40

Weiner clearly had some mental issues. Fil1957 Yesterday #98

We are now to the point where we are DEFENDING Anthony Weiner and his actions ? stopdiggin Yesterday #44

As far as I can see the only disqualifier sarisataka Yesterday #148

Totally different situation. ShazzieB Yesterday #46

Weiner and his pedophilia might've cost us the 2016 election mr715 Yesterday #58

This is not the way Boo1 23 hrs ago #161

The oligarchs love to tell the peasants: "Suffering builds character" dalton99a Yesterday #2

Look at their standard bearer orangecrush Yesterday #3

The comparison will be Platner vs Collins karynnj Yesterday #32

Actually Platner's behaviors remind me of Trump. delisen Yesterday #53

Are they? Boo1 21 hrs ago #164

All I care about is winning elections and keeping as many filthy MAGATs out of office as possible. BannonsLiver Yesterday #4

We dumped Al Franklin for what? Ferryboat Yesterday #5

We did not "dump" Al Franken. He resigned, conceded the successful campaign question everything Yesterday #9

Franken was pushed out by his fellow colleagues, he was targeted because he was too effective questionseverything Yesterday #11

To save the ACA, PERIOD END OF krawhitham Yesterday #13

We gained an outstanding senator in that seat. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #16

I don't think we gained anything from that situation. LisaL Yesterday #18

As a Minnesotan, I believe Tina Smith was a better senator than Franken, and a case could be made for Franken's WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #24

Well, that situation with Roy Moore LisaL Yesterday #28

It also saved the ACA krawhitham 6 hrs ago #188

lol BannonsLiver Yesterday #22

Being unwilling to keep a serial groper in office is a good thing EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #30

Al Franken made a moral decision mr715 Yesterday #59

Ethics and morals had nothing to do with it. DFW 4 hrs ago #192

He isn't my friend. mr715 2 hrs ago #193

I'll tell you what Quiet Em Yesterday #6

Thanks for the go ahead on this. I'll concentrate on all of them. All in here -- everywhere. KPN Yesterday #8

Fine but stop swinging your hammer at our basket please questionseverything Yesterday #12

Oyah, if we losing Maine, we are definitely winning Ohio. mr715 Yesterday #60

We can bask in our purity or rise up and kick Trump's fat ass. Those are our choices. flashman13 Yesterday #7

We can also bask in our stupidity. Irish_Dem Yesterday #10

Yep. We are doing it really well. LisaL Yesterday #14

I don't think Democrats are stupid. orangecrush Yesterday #64

That's what is so frustrating. Irish_Dem Yesterday #68

yes Skittles Yesterday #99

Skittles from the lectures I am receiving today, integrity is a quaint old fashioned notion. Irish_Dem Yesterday #107

yup, I am a vet, grew up in a military family Skittles Yesterday #121

Now we see how self-defeating all the purity attacks on a Nixie Yesterday #15

Yes. And it's interesting that many of the people mcar Yesterday #56

Exactly! As if we wouldn't notice the switcheroo and amnesia Nixie Yesterday #156

Yeah, I noticed. Cha 18 hrs ago #169

*poof* all the dramatic vote-my-conscience moral purity turns into pragmatism, big tent, think of the majority. betsuni 12 hrs ago #181

Clicks duckworth969 Yesterday #19

When I saw the headlines orangecrush Yesterday #69

So sh*tty behavior now becomes "nothing to see here". 'Cause - 'purity' stopdiggin Yesterday #23

Hardly Red Mountain Yesterday #26

Personally think that the latest round of 'concern' is primarily click bait media stuff stopdiggin Yesterday #67

Totally admit it Red Mountain Yesterday #129

and, in turn - I will not be arguing at all that there isn't occasion when it is appropriate (perhaps imperative?) stopdiggin 21 hrs ago #163

Fair enough Red Mountain 7 hrs ago #184

Accusing Democrats of being bought and paid for ('corporate Dems') is the worst purity test and not true. betsuni Yesterday #25

THANK YOU!! Cha 18 hrs ago #170

As a woman, Platner creeps me out jmbar2 Yesterday #27

That's how I feel. LisaL Yesterday #31

This opposition research comes from Collins main supporter, AIPAC questionseverything Yesterday #36

But do you really think it's all there is? LisaL Yesterday #38

Yes, where are the women? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #62

Probably going to vote for Graham Platner. mr715 Yesterday #106

Same go for Bill Clinton? orangecrush Yesterday #76

He was a sleaze, but had a track record and a weak opponent. jmbar2 Yesterday #92

thank you for framing this with such clarity and perspective. needed to be said! - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Yesterday #88

Agreed pinkstarburst Yesterday #130

Anyone concerned about a candidates personal life over their ability to push the party agenda... TheSphinx Yesterday #34

Republicans clearly aren't concerned. LisaL Yesterday #35

Americans as a whole arent concerned either.. TheSphinx Yesterday #45

Yea, well, how is it working out? LisaL Yesterday #52

Trump couldnt care less. But guess what? He WON TheSphinx Yesterday #77

Yes, I am sure Trump is happy he won. LisaL Yesterday #82

The goal of the election is to win the election. mr715 Yesterday #101

I don't vote for candidates in the general election because I like them, I vote for candidates who will push the sop Yesterday #54

there's "personal life" and then there is a misogynistic creep with a nazi tattoo Skittles Yesterday #65

I really hate this attitude. Trump is not "winning" - TBF Yesterday #72

Tom Massie said he's going to identify more individuals whose names were redacted from the Piggy/Epstein files MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #120

I'm sorry but, you cant take down an enemy if you are unwilling to match or exceed their energy TheSphinx Yesterday #131

That is absolutely not what I said, but nice try Ace TBF Yesterday #132

Yea and the Epstein files are almost completely out of the news cycle right now.. TheSphinx Yesterday #136

"the news cycle" is owned by Trump's billionaire friends TBF Yesterday #138

Welcome to DU sarisataka Yesterday #87

lol TBF Yesterday #133

Considering no one has said what the texts say or who they were actually sent to -- and Im sure Nanjeanne Yesterday #41

Give it time. LisaL Yesterday #42

AIPAC has unleashed millions to defeat platner questionseverything Yesterday #48

Or we could develop better red flag detectors, because they were jumping out at me several months ago. FascismIsDeath Yesterday #43

I don't have a vote in Maine snd not telling those that do how to vote. surfered Yesterday #47

And he is only been married for 3 years, for crying out loud. LisaL Yesterday #51

surely there is some common ground between creep-with-nazi-tattoo and the perfect candidate Skittles Yesterday #49

lol Renew Deal Yesterday #50

For sure, let men be sexual deviants. Boys will be boys. Irish_Dem Yesterday #55

non sequitur orangecrush Yesterday #89

So married men sexting strangers is the same as just having an affair? Irish_Dem Yesterday #100

Strangers? orangecrush Yesterday #105

He was on KIK, online site for teens and tweens. Irish_Dem Yesterday #111

So he was sexting minors? orangecrush Yesterday #119

He used KIK. LisaL 18 hrs ago #171

Please don't quote right wing sources here orangecrush 18 hrs ago #172

You asked for a source. I got you a source. LisaL 18 hrs ago #173

It is against DU terms of service orangecrush 18 hrs ago #174

Here. I am not sure what qualifies as not a right wing source, LisaL 18 hrs ago #175

Some people really want to stick their heads in the ground even when everything is on the line. Exultant Democracy 6 hrs ago #187

Mills dropped out of the race. Unless Emile 4 hrs ago #191

Yes hence the stupid money already pissed away the best chance, but David Costello is a fine backup Exultant Democracy 1 hr ago #204

"I admire your optimism. It's completely unfounded, but I admire it." Emile 56 min ago #205

Exceptions are permitted if you provide a clear reason for doing so that is consistent with the values of this website. Exultant Democracy 18 hrs ago #176

This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush 18 hrs ago #177

Quoting a right wing think tank to attack a Democratic candidate orangecrush 8 hrs ago #183

Its okay -- purity test for thee not for me. mr715 2 hrs ago #194

Nothing says "class" or "dignity" like a headless mirror selfie MorbidButterflyTat 1 hr ago #203

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #117

And I wonder how much AIPAC oppo research paid that aide orangecrush Yesterday #109

Enough to hoodwink stalwart Democrats on DU mr715 2 hrs ago #195

Being a rape apologist does. niyad 19 hrs ago #167

Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #57

Yup orangecrush Yesterday #84

She is concerned that all her support comes from a Democratic message board. mr715 Yesterday #97

Did he have an affair RandySF Yesterday #61

Yeah, how does a guy just start sexting random women? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #75

It happens every day in the country RandySF Yesterday #83

Well, first a man and woman say they like each other... mr715 Yesterday #96

So he had affairs with all these women? MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #123

His wife seems to love him. mr715 Yesterday #125

I wouldn't bet the farm on that. TBF Yesterday #140

Open relationships are a thing. mr715 Yesterday #142

It's Maine, not my state so I'll let the voters decide - TBF Yesterday #144

I don't want to reduce anyone's agency. mr715 Yesterday #146

I pray she is not in an abusive relationship - whether mental or physical TBF Yesterday #152

What if they are only open on one side? LisaL Yesterday #145

Yup it is. mr715 Yesterday #147

Yep, and it's called cheating, as far as I can tell. LisaL Yesterday #149

Yep! mr715 Yesterday #150

Like I said, I am glad I don't have to vote for him. LisaL Yesterday #151

My hunch is that ALL of their shared assets are wrapped up in his campaign jmbar2 Yesterday #154

I wouldn't be surprised - TBF Yesterday #155

Oh please MorbidButterflyTat 21 hrs ago #165

How many in this thread even vote in that state? MineralMan Yesterday #63

He is running for Senate so this affects all of us. LisaL Yesterday #66

And yet, you do not vote there. MineralMan Yesterday #71

Why do we focus on any elections? LisaL Yesterday #73

I can tell you why I focus on elections in Minnesota. MineralMan Yesterday #93

You have a particularly interesting governor to elect. mr715 19 hrs ago #168

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #103

And the primary in Texas (et.al.) was not of national significance? I think stopdiggin Yesterday #113

this is a POLITICAL BOARD Skittles Yesterday #70

Exactly. LisaL Yesterday #74

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Yesterday #80

You know what is POLITICAL? MineralMan Yesterday #78

LOL Skittles Yesterday #79

I'm pretty sure you and I Ishoutandscream2 Yesterday #116

If you are only concered about your own state, why use a discussion board LisaL Yesterday #85

Oh, dear! Well, you see, there are also national Politics. MineralMan Yesterday #95

That's who he is Ishoutandscream2 Yesterday #104

This is a different Democratic Party sarisataka Yesterday #81

That about sums it up. LisaL Yesterday #86

... orangecrush Yesterday #91

Did Bill Clinton recount his homophobic jokes sarisataka Yesterday #112

sounds a bit like a, "but Mussolini made the trains run on time .. " type of argument stopdiggin Yesterday #118

Don't forget Blackwater merc and to me, questionable finances EX500rider Yesterday #126

100% Blue Full Moon Yesterday #90

They will. orangecrush Yesterday #94

AIPAC buying an election again. Blue Full Moon Yesterday #110

Spot on. orangecrush Yesterday #115

This is up to the voters in Maine. ShazzieB Yesterday #102

Thread winner orangecrush Yesterday #114

"Platner's "baggage" has been blown way out of proportion" EX500rider Yesterday #127

It wasn't an "SS" tattoo. ShazzieB Yesterday #139

This guy is 41 years old. LisaL Yesterday #143

Yeah, no, it was (and he does not deny it) a SS Totenkopf, no doubt about that EX500rider Yesterday #157

Yes, he found out what it was because people recognized it and told him. ShazzieB 22 hrs ago #162

The tattoo really pesters me LetMyPeopleVote 23 hrs ago #159

No, not "a long time ago." TommyT139 17 hrs ago #178

I don't live there so i dont have a vote or voice there Samael13 Yesterday #108

People talk like they are voting for the person, or not. The reality of how Congress works RockRaven Yesterday #122

This. mr715 Yesterday #128

OK, I will explain w/an example. MAGATS embrace the party - TBF Yesterday #135

or, conversely - do we now endorse the notion that our star football player stopdiggin Yesterday #124

I will let Mainers worry about him. I ain't donating to him. LymphocyteLover Yesterday #134

I know the woman who brought up the sexting. She did GPV Yesterday #137

So far I am impressed by McDonald, if that is who you are referring to. delisen Yesterday #141

Whatever happened to vote blue no matter who Bluestocking Yesterday #153

Good question. I would vote for Costello, other dem in the race. delisen Yesterday #158

This or that gibraltar72 23 hrs ago #160

Support democrats DoBW 21 hrs ago #166

Thanks orangecrush 13 hrs ago #180

Many of Platner's earliest and most fervent supporters are ones that started this purity bullshit. W_HAMILTON 16 hrs ago #179

The original recipe purity test of Medicare for All or you're a corrupt corporate shill who hates universal health care betsuni 11 hrs ago #182

"We can bask in our purity As we sit in places like Delaney Hall, after they round us up." WhiskeyGrinder 7 hrs ago #185

I get Linda Tripp vibes re Genevieve McDonald. Do I give a shit about "sexting"? Not one bit as long as Nanjeanne 6 hrs ago #186

Marmishness mr715 1 hr ago #196

For the record, Genevieve McDonald didn't leak this to rightwingers Quiet Em 1 hr ago #197

For the record there isn't much on the record. No actual texts have been seen so we have zero info Nanjeanne 1 hr ago #198

I have no idea what the WSJ has or doesn't have Quiet Em 1 hr ago #200

No one does. But doesn't stop all the speculation and conjecture. Nanjeanne 1 hr ago #201

Would you say the same thing if it was a GOP'er with an SS tattoo?? WarGamer 5 hrs ago #189

Looks like the GOP better worry about losing the Senate orangecrush 4 hrs ago #190

Nazi tats, has treated women badly and talked about them worse, and was a RW mercenary obamanut2012 1 hr ago #199

Thanks for posting orangecrush 1 hr ago #202