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highplainsdem

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4. It isn't enough. Ideally, generative AI models trained illegally should be destroyed, with new legal AI models

Mon Jun 1, 2026, 10:49 AM

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trained only on what's in the public domain and what the AI companies have legally acquired the right to use, first getting the copyright owners' permission and then paying if payment is requested.

But the AI companies aren't about to do that. Using older and very limited training data wouldn't produce AI models as impressive as what they have now. The generative AI industry was deliberately built on theft, with almost all the value of genAI coming from the value of the intellectual property they stole. All those responsible for that theft belong in prison. There is no adequate way to deal with the injustice short of destroying those illegally trained AI models and punishing the criminals.

But I still like seeing people propose as many regulations and penalties as possible on the industry - even though I know the AI bros and politicians under their influence will fight any regulations and penalties - because it helps make people aware of just how unethical and illegal genAI is.

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Bernie Sanders: The Public Should Own Half of the Big A.I. Companies (NYT, 6/1/2026) [View all] highplainsdem Monday OP

No. QueerDuck Monday #1

Why not? highplainsdem Monday #3

A 50% STATE TAKEOVER of private companies is not the answer... it's overreach. QueerDuck Monday #24

Ownership of an AI built on public data is just. It gives the public class action standing in federal court. ancianita Monday #28

How does that help pay for the food, health, and shelter of the tens of millions of people who will lose their jobs Doodley Monday #2

It isn't enough. Ideally, generative AI models trained illegally should be destroyed, with new legal AI models highplainsdem Monday #4

I understand what you are saying, but the genie is already out of the bottle. This is where we are, and Doodley Monday #6

Just using AI dumbs users down and makes them dependent on AI. There are few if any good uses highplainsdem Monday #9

With all due respect, have you used it much? Doodley Monday #14

I've used it enough to know how it works and how tempting it can seem. And I've read thousands of highplainsdem Monday #19

With all due respect, I don't think you understand how incredibly useful AI is. Doodley Monday #21

With all due respect, you asked AI to give you ideas and tell you where to shop. IMO that's an example highplainsdem Monday #22

With all due respect, you are making a lot of assumptions. Doodley Monday #23

My "assumptions" were based on what you'd told me. highplainsdem Monday #29

Try all it's tech we paid for. In-Q-Tel funds or should I just say CIA. Blue Full Moon Monday #5

I don't want to own it. I want it to not exist. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #7

Agreed. MineralMan Monday #8

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YES! Emile Monday #10

sigh... WarGamer Monday #12

It isn't true that "Training is Learning, Not Storing" - that's AI company propaganda to try to defend highplainsdem Monday #15

Thanks for the information. There is also a lot of people who have formed an opinion about AI Doodley Monday #16

See reply 15. highplainsdem Monday #20

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Bingo!!! Doodley Monday #17

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