General Discussion

Call them what you want, they've had many titles over the last 300 years .... oligarchs, international businessmen or financiers, capitalists, cryptobros, Lords of various stripes and nationalities, titans of industry. They were all loyal to themselves more than their countries. It turns out there were plots to overthrow not just FDR, but Winston Churchill too, the elites negotiating and collaborating where they could. Many used fronts for their interests - LLCs, conglomerates, exploration companies. Which is a long way of saying, democracy was not their thing all along.

And really, for those keeping score, the USA America was an outcast from the very beginning. We rebelled against monarchies. We had to beg for credit - capital - money - after the Revolution and few would lend to us. So this schism between the old elite order - monarchist or capitalist or both - has been simmering a long time, hundreds of years.