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In reply to the discussion: I see that James Talarico is doing something that Kamala did not [View all]Bluetus
(3,158 posts)62. I don't deny that Lieberman screwed the pooch
We always seem to have one two assholes that are willing to ruin it for everyone else (SInema, Manchin, Fetterman).
But the WIki article says it accurately IMHO:
President Barack Obama promoted the idea of the public option while running for election in 2008.[8] Following his election, Obama downplayed the need for a public health insurance option, including calling it a "sliver" of health care reform, but still campaigned for the option up until the health care reform was passed.
I would dispute that last bit about campaigning for it all the way to the end. Obama took it off the table early on. I guess he decided he couldn't get past Lieberman.
He certainly could have mentioned the public option while campaigning. There was gaslighting galore while the legislation was going through ("death panels" etc), so most people were totally unaware that "Obamacare" was in fact going to be largely a continuation of the same for-profit system we have always had. And now, 16 years later, we are still paying double what any other western country pays and UHC and everybody else is still trying to use the same abusive denial-of-care practices they always did.
I don't blame Obama for that last bit. The Republicans have been taking Obamacare apart, brick-by-brick. Systematically, every year.
I do wonder why there aren't more Dems very clear about at least having the option to expand traditional Medicare, or even taking the slightest steps to oppose the abuses of "Advantage".
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I see that James Talarico is doing something that Kamala did not [View all]
senseandsensibility
Wednesday
OP
It is also important he confronts MAGA christianity about their bastardization of Christianity.
travelingthrulife
Wednesday
#4
They aren't all Christian Nationalists though, many just have a really hateful interpretation
travelingthrulife
Thursday
#88
If they have no interest in discriminating or reshaping law in accord with their beliefs, they aren't violating...
pat_k
Thursday
#91
My thoughts exactly. That's why I've thought that Talarico was particularly needed at this time.
summer_in_TX
Wednesday
#42
This is great. I want to share with my fundie Trump lovers in my family. But its way too small to read for them
LiberalLovinLug
Thursday
#94
I would say Obama was elected to bring us a public option in healthcare
questionseverything
Wednesday
#22
Here's a link from Wikipedia that appears to support my recollection of events
Mad_Machine76
Wednesday
#59
I still genuinely believe if the Dems had RAMMED Medicare for all Americans through in 2009, we never
PatrickforB
Wednesday
#36
Nah, with all due respect, your post would have us all dancing at the end of the same string.
PatrickforB
Thursday
#76
Opportunity economy, middle class, small business, first-time house buyer subsidy, corporate price gouging,
betsuni
Thursday
#77
Except I would get rid of the 'fight hard' clause. My email box and mobile text fills up every day with dozens
PatrickforB
Wednesday
#40
Picking a convicted felon over competency is entirely because of not solving issues like housing and affordability (n/m)
Soul_of_Wit
Wednesday
#49
It is a fact. Do we want to have our principles or do we want to win some elections so we can make these things right?
Bluetus
Wednesday
#38
I am not sure one can ever define an opponent especially one as creepy as his. Best to just constantly define yourself.
efhmc
Wednesday
#73
Last night, Paxton broke out every stereotype from the Trump book he could find.
ificandream
Wednesday
#53
She called Trump an "unhinged and unstable" fascist ... oh wait, it's Kamala the Invisible, like all the
betsuni
Wednesday
#69
Lawrence asked a repuke style question painting Rep Talarico with the pro trans kids brush.
Tbear
Wednesday
#75
You have a point, especially after 45 years of incessant smearing of liberals
lostnfound
Thursday
#85