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manicdem

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Mon May 25, 2026, 05:25 PM

May 25

Using AI I check the stats of a 7 seater SUV with ICE/Hybrid/EV varients with a model. The ICE model below has a minimal electric motor booster only. The weight difference is very dramatic. I was surprised by how high the MPG estimate is on the Hybrid, & assuming the similar for pure EV. I thought it would be half that. Guess a large hybrid SUV could get better mileage than an ICE sedan.

But in your case assuming similar milage, the SUV would be paying similar taxes to the sedan based on milage. However the SUV probably weighs close to twice your sedan hence the added taxes and fees you have to pay.

Powertrain TypeModel & TrimCurb WeightEstimated Mileage / Range
Mild-Hybrid (ICE)Volvo XC90 B5 / B6~4,442 - 4,600 lbs23 City / 30 Hwy MPG
Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV)Volvo XC90 T8 Recharge~5,075 - 5,104 lbs58 MPGe / 33 mi pure electric range
Pure Electric (EV)Volvo EX90~6,135 lbsUp to 310 mi total electric range

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'Paying their fair share': EV drivers could see new fees in proposed bill [View all] AllyCat May 25 OP

Make sense that there's an annual fee for road usage. Melon May 25 #1

I did not say that I don't think we should fund the roads. AllyCat May 25 #8

Outrageous... California already has something like 200-300 in annual EV fees... WarGamer May 25 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Melon May 25 #3

Downsides manicdem May 25 #10

Ya, my CA tags were $800 for my (leased) EV SUV this year. haele May 25 #12

make fossil fuel users pay for the costs of global climate chage instead DBoon May 25 #4

My plug in Prius weighs WAY less Bettie May 25 #5

OR: Eliminate The Gas Tax. Institute A Vehicle Tax. You Drive,.... ColoringFool May 25 #6

Others have thought of this. Weight and miles driven. AllyCat May 25 #9

Proposal makes sense manicdem May 25 #7

I wouldn't consider a RAV4 similar to a Tesla sedan. AllyCat May 25 #13

You'd have to make an apples to apples comparison manicdem May 25 #15

Doesn't matter. I am buying MORE fuel than my husband. AllyCat May 25 #16

example manicdem May 25 #17

Other vehicles are NOT taxed by weight. AllyCat May 25 #19

Honestly, it doesn't seem like an onerous fee Bettie May 25 #11

Why should we pay more than ICE owners? AllyCat May 25 #14

For me, it's because I like driving on decent roads Bettie May 25 #20

Correct. I do not disagree that we should cover our AllyCat May 25 #21

Given that, then yes, a number closer to 90 Bettie May 25 #22

Democrats aren't in a rush to pass universal healthcare but they can't wait to tax EV's. Renew Deal May 25 #18