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H2O Man

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30. Great song!
Fri May 22, 2026, 11:22 PM
May 22

I have a few versions of it. The record company's lawyers asked for two lines to be changed before they released it, and Bob had sung it live a couple of times already. The changes made had nothing to do with Miss Patti Valentine, yet she sued because the song made her sad. It should have made her feel guilty about lying. I knew the second Patterson patrolman to arrive at the scene of the shooting. He told me that Valentine was not upstairs sleeping until the gunfire woke her, allowing her to look out her second story window and "identify" Carter and Artis by the back of their necks. Seriously. She was actually at a party down the street, and no one else there said it was Rubin and John -- in fact, there was a boxer at the party, who said it definitely wasn't them.

I also know a local man, the cousin of a good friend, who was in the bar earlier that evening. He was on leave from fighting in Vietnam at the time. He said that the white people he knew had long considered Rubin to be a scary man. And I have had someone say to me, "You can tell he is a murderer! Just look at him!" I think that is what convicted him, since the evidence couldn't.

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Hurricane [View all] H2O Man May 22 OP
You ought to be a writer. cachukis May 22 #1
Thank you! H2O Man May 22 #2
If you have the time and enough typewriter ribbons. cachukis May 22 #5
Any possibility -- this is kind of far-fetched -- that Rubin was framed to take him out of the boxing game? malthaussen May 22 #19
Wow, hell of a story, good job! Walleye May 22 #3
Thanks! H2O Man May 22 #6
That's so interesting and sad. Shows how little we know of our own history. Walleye May 22 #24
Waterman you are my idea of good people malaise May 22 #4
Thank you! H2O Man May 22 #7
Nailed it re the penal system malaise May 22 #13
There are some H2O Man May 22 #21
The cruelty sanctioned by the state in many countries is malaise May 22 #27
"Less money invested in prisons?" I don't think so, Pat. malthaussen May 22 #20
Not in my state. H2O Man May 22 #22
That was an excellent read. You had a super cool experience becoming friends with Hurricane. 1WorldHope May 22 #8
Thank you! H2O Man May 22 #11
It is a pleasure to be here and read your wisdom. 1WorldHope May 22 #23
Well, thank you! H2O Man May 22 #29
A Truly Strong Man Kid Berwyn May 22 #9
I have a NYT article H2O Man May 22 #25
Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe May 22 #10
Thank you! H2O Man May 22 #26
Dylan flashman13 May 22 #12
Great song! H2O Man May 22 #30
I read this a few months ago. mgardener May 22 #14
Beautiful! H2O Man May 22 #31
Wonderful story, H2O Man! lastlib May 22 #15
Thanks! H2O Man May 22 #32
Thanks, Pat Easterncedar May 22 #16
Thank you! H2O Man May 23 #33
Yes. It seems wrong. Easterncedar May 23 #36
K & R Recommended! FakeNoose May 22 #17
Thanks! H2O Man May 23 #34
Wonderful, amazing and inspiring. people May 22 #18
Thank you! H2O Man May 23 #35
I love your Rubin stories Saoirse9 May 22 #28
Thank you! H2O Man May 23 #37
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