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185. That idea was proposed for Orban/Hungary so why not the US?

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Thu Apr 23, 2026, 11:11 AM

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Per the Washington Post:

In March 2026, reports surfaced that Russian operatives proposed a plot called "The Gamechanger" to aid Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. The plan involved staging a fake assassination attempt against Orbán to stir his supporters and tip the Hungarian election in his favor.

Isn't there a chance they also attempted to boost tRump's chances using similar methods? There are a lot of red flags when it comes to the situation that occurred.

We can look at tRump's past video footage and see that he gets extremely frightened in a lot of situations - for example, with the bird on his desk, or his hiding out in the bunker during the 2020 protests.

So are we now to believe that he heard shots ring out and whiz past his head but instead of running for cover he's putting on his shoes and staging a photo op?

I understand that the obvious, common sense thought pattern would be: why would someone risk getting shot in the head? Or why would someone risk one of their own supporters getting killed?

But you have to remember who we're dealing with. tRump is an extremely ignorant, stupid, impulsive, and amoral sociopath. He's also an authoritarian, black and white thinker. So if he's convinced that there are individuals who can handle that type of operation, he's not going to have doubts or second thoughts.

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So do you think Trump hired a hit person to [View all] leftyladyfrommo Apr 19 OP

YES! dlilafae Apr 19 #1

He wasn't shot. He didn't win. He's on the list. 31st Street Bridge Apr 19 #53

Correct on all three. yellow dahlia Apr 19 #127

Word of the day: KAYFABE OhioBack2Blue Apr 19 #164

One rally attendee died and another was injured fujiyamasan Thursday #189

Yes Botany Apr 19 #2

How did Trump manage to fool the Secret Service? pcdb Apr 19 #124

The 1st Secret Service team was removed from Biden's detail because they weren't trusted. tintinvotes Tuesday #176

I think Rebl2 Thursday #186

And as an old fart, healing takes longer. IzzaNuDay Apr 19 #132

SAG he is Whip-poor-will Apr 19 #3

Pretty sure they Rebl2 Apr 19 #77

I do not believe the assassination attempt was staged, Joe Cool Apr 19 #4

"Either the bullet whizzed close enough by his that it caused some bleeding" Polybius Apr 19 #14

'penetration, howsomever slight...." ucmj rampartd Apr 19 #39

So he was raped by a bullet? BattleRow Apr 19 #44

no bullet got anywhere near that podium rampartd Apr 19 #66

Lloyd Bucher, remember him? NoRethugFriends Apr 19 #85

His doctor said it left a one-inch hole in his ear. ZZenith Apr 19 #136

That's ridiculous misanthrope Apr 19 #141

From what I have read, mzmolly Apr 19 #65

Bingo! Doodley Apr 19 #76

SS couldn't control him! LeftInTX Apr 19 #78

I very much doubt that he's got that much physical strength. Crunchy Frog Apr 19 #151

Standing on stage for several seconds, allowed to pump his fist in the air, yelling "Fight! Fight! Fight" True Dough Apr 19 #89

This Bayard Apr 19 #92

Yes - that was obviously rehearsed GenThePerservering Apr 19 #110

The shoes were his biggest concern Brother Buzz Apr 19 #112

The teleprompter screens weren't struck misanthrope Apr 19 #142

No. n/t demmiblue Apr 19 #5

No he is too much of a coward. Irish_Dem Apr 19 #6

The person wasn't particularly close to him. But yes. I think it was staged. Here's why: Scrivener7 Apr 19 #7

But the entire Secret Service staff on the site (dozens) would have been in on it that way Polybius Apr 19 #13

The police likely reported the kid to the Secret Service. Scrivener7 Apr 19 #16

I get what you're saying, but I still think too many would have have to have been in on it Polybius Apr 19 #18

Whether they were in on it or not, they allowed him to hang out there for 20 minutes Scrivener7 Apr 19 #23

All they needed to do was follow orders. That's all. nt GenThePerservering Apr 19 #111

Why not run to the media, or the Biden Administration? Polybius Apr 19 #149

And risk their jobs? MorbidButterflyTat Apr 19 #159

If they would be the one to get the story out, they would all be heroes Polybius Monday #169

They don't follow that rule for major conspiracies. They own the media. travelingthrulife Apr 19 #64

Like the Penn State abuse scandal? Cirsium Apr 19 #72

A mother reported her son's abuse gab13by13 Apr 19 #100

Paterno Cirsium Apr 19 #126

You've got the outline for a good novel there! marble falls Apr 19 #30

Yeah, but those things did happen. And PS, it was already a movie - The Paralax View. Scrivener7 Apr 19 #33

They do seem to get a lot of their material from movies. AllyCat Apr 19 #74

Excellent analysis, Scrivener7 Grim Chieftain Apr 19 #55

Thank YOU! As I was writing that, one thing REALLY jumped out at me. Scrivener7 Apr 19 #104

Exactly, and consider the other "assassination attempt" Grim Chieftain Apr 19 #105

Dah winnah! raccoon Apr 19 #97

And as Trump was being ushered off the stage by SS, he made them stop and get his shoes. Sogo Apr 19 #107

No. I think Donald John was lucky Vogon_Glory Apr 19 #8

I agree with the first part of what you wrote Polybius Apr 19 #10

I think you're right. Vogon_Glory Apr 19 #22

I think in that parallel universe, DeSantis gets the nomination Polybius Apr 19 #147

That must be an alternate universe where he has lots of charisma, Vogon_Glory Apr 19 #165

Well, a non-charismatic person can win the presidency Polybius Monday #170

No, because that would be impossible to pull off Polybius Apr 19 #9

The kid - the shooter - was shot and killed. Scrivener7 Apr 19 #12

Yes, so why would he take the offer knowing he'd be killed? Polybius Apr 19 #15

Maybe they lied to him. Liberal In Texas Apr 19 #17

That's what they do in the movies too Polybius Apr 19 #21

Not that hard to find among the base of young underachieving magat men. Scrivener7 Apr 19 #26

I don't it was staged but the shooter was the type of loser JI7 Apr 19 #160

He was an underachieving magat. They could have told him they were Scrivener7 Apr 19 #20

Is there any evidence that the person was in communication with members of Trumps team? Kaleva Apr 19 #48

I don't know of any, do you? I doubt they would broadcast it. Scrivener7 Apr 19 #50

Usualky criminals don't broadcast but the evidence convicts them Kaleva Apr 19 #69

Ok. And? Magats apparently love Signal. Scrivener7 Apr 19 #86

The shooter is the weak link, always. They have to be silenced, like LH Oswald. marble falls Apr 19 #32

It's Possible Kid Berwyn Apr 19 #11

How did his ear heal with no scar? Emile Apr 19 #19

Maybe there was no contact, for one reason or another. bucolic_frolic Apr 19 #31

I think Trump hired a hit person to take out Epstein too. Emile Apr 19 #24

That previously unreleased video of someone in an orange jumpsuit approaching Epstein's Scrivener7 Apr 19 #27

All we have now is this Emile Apr 19 #80

Of course he did. yellow dahlia Apr 19 #134

The behavior of the SS allowing him to stand with his fist in the air Ritabert Apr 19 #25

I saw somewhere that those flags attached to crane booms started to lower Liberal In Texas Apr 19 #28

I wouldn't be surprised. Ritabert Apr 19 #29

That's not a rumor angrychair Apr 19 #75

The videos I viewed show hydraulic fluid spewing from the equipment south of the stage. John1956PA Apr 19 #161

There's a non-zero chance Prairie Gates Apr 19 #34

Kooky CT nonsense Fiendish Thingy Apr 19 #35

Agreed. It is getting really tiresome. n/t Ms. Toad Apr 19 #63

I consider it likely the powers that wanted Trump to win so they could steal us blind would do such a thing. Attilatheblond Apr 19 #82

Do you consider the logistics required to successfully fake an assassination attempt? Fiendish Thingy Apr 19 #98

I referenced the powers that wanted Trump to win, you know the billionaires making/stealing $$ with him in power Attilatheblond Apr 19 #114

It's still Kooky CT Nonsense Fiendish Thingy Apr 19 #119

You do you, as is your right Attilatheblond Apr 19 #120

I do agree with MTG about this. I also agree with Massie about the Epstein files, and Liz Cheney Scrivener7 Monday #172

Putin told Viktor Orban gab13by13 Apr 19 #36

Ko-INKY- dink? I think not. yellow dahlia Apr 19 #135

To me it appears the SS let it happen either on purpose or just plain doc03 Apr 19 #37

His SS detail was decreased from when he was president and he didn't have a full presidential candidate detail yet. LeftInTX Apr 19 #81

Like moths to a flame JoseBalow Apr 19 #38

Yep Blue Full Moon Apr 19 #40

Yes DemMedic Apr 19 #41

the dead guy could have been a tragic accident rampartd Apr 19 #42

Three people were shot that day Retrograde Apr 19 #108

That answer follows Occam's Razor most closely misanthrope Apr 19 #144

Yes their names were released EdmondDantes_ Apr 19 #167

No orangecrush Apr 19 #43

Trumpsters say God deflected the bullet to save Trump's life. Norrrm Apr 19 #45

Yep Grim Chieftain Apr 19 #99

Of course he did Clouds Passing Apr 19 #46

Recruited a moron and then killed them Johonny Apr 19 #47

My husband used to think I'm crazy, but 100% that's what I believe. lark Apr 19 #49

ABSOLUTELY! Mr.Bee Apr 19 #51

No obnoxiousdrunk Apr 19 #52

I think it could have been staged mb40 Apr 19 #54

The first time they showed the shot T smacked his ear with force. Then he went down to the ground. Hope22 Apr 19 #56

Too complicated and too much risk. People talk. Leaks happen. paleotn Apr 19 #57

ding. this. AllaN01Bear Apr 19 #58

I think they hired a kid, who locals said was a known bad shot, to shoot above the crowd. travelingthrulife Apr 19 #59

Putin destroyed an apt building in a false flag action. 58Sunliner Apr 19 #60

It was three apt buildings, and his men were caught trying for a fourth. Crunchy Frog Apr 19 #156

Thanks for the correction. A real psychopath. 58Sunliner Apr 19 #166

No, he got lucky. BradBo Apr 19 #61

If he had actually been shot, he would never have jumped up and pumped his fist ashredux Apr 19 #62

This! hamsterjill Apr 19 #70

That's what bothers me, too. nt leftyladyfrommo Apr 19 #94

But another man died. Why? No blowback on that and never mentioned again. Srkdqltr Apr 19 #67

Yes angrychair Apr 19 #68

No blood gibraltar72 Apr 19 #71

Nothing would surprise me. He'd sacrifice one life for a good photo op as long as it wasn't his. Vinca Apr 19 #73

It'd make for a great thriller plot but... Tranquil72 Apr 19 #79

Wouldn't put it past him. Joinfortmill Apr 19 #83

The way the Secret Service left him exposed is a big clue it was faked dflprincess Apr 19 #84

Yeh, and the Secret Service was in on it. NoRethugFriends Apr 19 #87

For any person who thinks "how can anyone fall for Trump, you can only vote for him if you're a lousy person", biocube Apr 19 #88

Yes. OLDMDDEM Apr 19 #90

Golly. I wonder where Trump could have learned his flair for scripted dramatic events? True Dough Apr 19 #91

+1 dalton99a Apr 19 #162

Also, unless this video has been debunked, it's damning... True Dough Apr 19 #93

No; he wouldn't have the guts to be that close to danger (nt) muriel_volestrangler Apr 19 #95

No Kaleva Apr 19 #96

Don't you have to investigate to get evidence? gab13by13 Apr 19 #102

The Biden Administration investigated it Kaleva Apr 19 #106

Yes. This is krasnov we're talking about, so yes. AnotherMother4Peace Apr 19 #101

Sadly, this is applicable these days: True Dough Apr 19 #103

Trunp couldn't hire a gardener Fichefinder Apr 19 #109

I'm still trying to decide whether Melania hired the hitman, or whether JD did, or whether it was Stephen MIller, struggle4progress Apr 19 #113

We are still talking about it, that is all that matters to him Nictuku Apr 19 #115

Absolutely Blue Full Moon Apr 19 #116

OPTICS! Blue Owl Apr 19 #117

Can't rule it out. moondust Apr 19 #118

Given the nature of The Beast, B.See Apr 19 #121

I think that is as plausible sarisataka Apr 19 #122

Relevant! True Dough Apr 19 #123

Look, I don't know what that asshole did, but hamsterjill Apr 19 #125

De-rec. I'm dispirited that this CT miasma still floats around here like a toxic cloud. It's a bad look for our board. Celerity Apr 19 #128

I think that's a fair concern. Abolishinist Apr 19 #145

Agreed. The video stills show T's right palm (w/o blood) move to his right ear. John1956PA Apr 19 #150

Any payment? Chiefsfan Apr 19 #129

See post below. $4 million raised with a GoFundMe. IcyPeas Apr 19 #138

Don't forget the merch! MorbidButterflyTat Apr 19 #157

That's a rhetorical question, right? yellow dahlia Apr 19 #130

... True Dough Apr 19 #131

Do you see a bullet wound in that ear? True Dough Apr 19 #133

Wow. None whatsoever. Where's this photo from? I never saw it before. Scrivener7 Apr 19 #158

Fact Check: FAKE Photo Shows Trump With No Damage To His Ear Immediately After Butler Assassination Attempt -- It's AI Celerity Tuesday #174

that is a fake, AI-generated image, see post 174 Celerity Tuesday #175

Appreciate knowing that, Celerity. True Dough Tuesday #179

I posted pics of the wound from mainstream news reports as soon as the day it happened. I posted a pic in this OP thread Celerity Tuesday #180

Yes, but I'm looking for something since then True Dough Tuesday #181

GoFundMe raised $4 million for victims.... IcyPeas Apr 19 #137

And there is this... Liberal In Texas Apr 19 #139

Considering that four LEOs near Trump were wounded by debris misanthrope Apr 19 #140

This message was self-deleted by its author Scrivener7 Tuesday #178

My opinion is that, as extremely improbable as it seems, the grazing in fact occurred. John1956PA Thursday #182

In the photo you mention misanthrope Thursday #187

To my understanding, experts agree that the streak shown in the photo was made by an object traveling at bullet speed. John1956PA Thursday #188

That certainly sounds like a possibility one round struck the lift misanthrope Thursday #190

I only know one thing about this subject bluestarone Apr 19 #143

Biden Administration investigated this. Kaleva Apr 19 #152

If I may float the idea that Trump is a "Manchurian candidate" and so is the shooter, in addition Doodley Apr 19 #146

I've been calling him the Siberian Candidate for about 10 years now. Liberal In Texas Apr 19 #163

He probably had some of his "people" Crunchy Frog Apr 19 #148

No. The Trump orbit is made of idiots EdmondDantes_ Apr 19 #153

Many here think he's a mastermind Kaleva Monday #173

I'm not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens. flvegan Apr 19 #154

Essentially, yes. I do not think he was really shot, and I do think he knew he wasn't shot/supposed to be shot. 50 Shades Of Blue Apr 19 #155

Two media videos CNYHarris Monday #168

Not done here yet! True Dough Monday #171

Not for Nothing, but Has Anyone Actually SEEN Evidence of Anyone Being Shot/Killed at That Butler Rally? The_Counsel Tuesday #177

One video show a man standing, looking north, and taking a bullet to his abdomen. John1956PA Thursday #183

I found the video I watched in 2024. John1956PA Thursday #184

That idea was proposed for Orban/Hungary so why not the US? ecstatic Thursday #185

I do not jmowreader Thursday #191