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hamsterjill

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159. Then you be you.

Mon Apr 13, 2026, 09:18 AM

5 hrs ago

Let me be me. That’s what makes things work.

I will always question accusations because anyone can accuse anyone else of any thing at any time.

I stand by “innocent until proven guilty” because I think it is the very basis for our democracy. Without that concept, we turn into lawlessness.

Trump accuses all the time without facts, without merit, just to spite someone he doesn’t agree with. Don’t expect me to voluntarily ignore the idea that someone should need some basis for an accusation. Facts, corroboration, etc.

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I may get banned for this, but [View all] grumpyduck Saturday OP

I'm not saying he is innocent, but I do believe the timing stinks of rat fuckery. SheltieLover Saturday #1

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Saturday #3

I was with you until I saw 'FOUR WOMEN' RandomNumbers Saturday #7

Has anyone credible asked them why they waited until now? SheltieLover Saturday #9

Victims in cases like these will often come forward when they see that someone they know as a predator or pest is about WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #24

Scattered throughout the CNN article, which is long RandomNumbers Saturday #27

That is, indeed, a commonality among sexual assault survivors, but I'm still reserving judgment. SheltieLover Saturday #28

Good point and I mostly agree with you. Time should tell. RandomNumbers Saturday #35

And, at least, the alleged victims were not children! SheltieLover Saturday #67

I agree with you. I think everyone involved .. Women, men, witnesses should take a polygraph. Trueblue1968 Saturday #92

Because Swallwell has been outspoken about kraznov. SheltieLover Saturday #93

I have been thinking of polygraphs as a complainant myself jfz9580m Saturday #131

Because polygraph tests aren't reliable? EdmondDantes_ 23 hrs ago #152

This is true MustLoveBeagles 4 hrs ago #161

an ABSOLUTELY common dynamic in sexual assault .. - - - - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Saturday #32

Maybe he's skilled at gaslighting wolfie001 Saturday #70

"why did you wait ?" is an age old question that has an unfortunate history of being weaponized .... stopdiggin Saturday #31

Here are some resources on why many victims don't come forward EdmondDantes_ Saturday #34

Fun fact: It was George Conway (the former Mr. Kellyanne Conway) who told E. Jean Carroll to file a suit against T💩p. OMGWTF Saturday #40

I didn't know that. EdmondDantes_ Saturday #41

Politico says they've seen a written confidentiality and non-disparagement agreement muriel_volestrangler Saturday #50

If it was pukes, not fooled Saturday #65

You must be male..... Biglinda 52 Saturday #78

I am not male & am a strong feminist with a strong bs sniffer & this stinks! SheltieLover Saturday #79

My beloved lover of Shelties... mr715 Saturday #90

Most of the bottom tier Dems in the race should've pulled out, imo &, in fact that they didn't makes me wonder how many SheltieLover Saturday #94

Because he can read social media? EdmondDantes_ Yesterday #141

Exactly, and right through the whole "Me Too!" movement. pandr32 Saturday #113

But four women all now? hamsterjill Saturday #22

I don't know either, Jill, but phone numbers can be spoofed and we know ruskies are great at hacking... SheltieLover Saturday #26

Agreed, Sheltie. hamsterjill Saturday #97

I'm on the fence too RandomNumbers Saturday #30

The unfortunate thing is that he'll already be cancelled. hamsterjill Saturday #98

I have no idea soldierant Saturday #128

Please don't. hamsterjill Saturday #132

Not underage perhaps, but unable to consent, and on the lower end of the power dynamic RandomNumbers Yesterday #139

I acknowledge your opinion. hamsterjill Yesterday #144

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So every man accused should just quit politics automatically? hamsterjill Yesterday #147

Taking a bad-faith reading of my posts might make you feel better, but it doesn't change the fact that people HAVE been WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #148

I've never heard anything about Swalwell before that was concerning. hamsterjill Yesterday #149

You haven't heard anything about Swalwell that's concerning by design. Sex pests know how to control their environment, WhiskeyGrinder 23 hrs ago #150

I agree. MorbidButterflyTat 23 hrs ago #154

Thank you. hamsterjill 22 hrs ago #155

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat 18 hrs ago #156

Are you really blaming a woman for being too drunk to consent? EdmondDantes_ 4 hrs ago #163

Yes. I'm putting the responsibility on ANY woman of adult age not to allow herself to get so intoxicated hamsterjill 3 hrs ago #166

I encourage you to do some reading on the dynamics of sexual coercion and violence, especially when it comes to WhiskeyGrinder 3 hrs ago #167

I encourage you to put me on ignore. hamsterjill 3 hrs ago #168

"I expect adults to act like adults." What does this mean? WhiskeyGrinder 3 hrs ago #171

Have yourself a wonderful afternoon. hamsterjill 56 min ago #172

you have a good one too WhiskeyGrinder 4 min ago #174

That's an absurd take EdmondDantes_ 3 hrs ago #169

So, if a woman goes to a bar, gets totally wasted, gets into a car and drives and kills someone hamsterjill 3 hrs ago #170

That bothers me to MustLoveBeagles 4 hrs ago #162

I'm perfectly comfortable waiting for facts,. But it would never occur to me soldierant 12 hrs ago #157

Then you be you. hamsterjill 5 hrs ago #159

California's jungle primary is weird. DemocratSinceBirth Saturday #45

You get it FHRRK1 Saturday #118

D versus R we win. D versus D we win. DemocratSinceBirth Saturday #121

I remember several women coming forward after Tara Reade. pandr32 Saturday #85

This message was self-deleted by its author usedtobedemgurl Saturday #103

Where are the women who accused Kavanaugh? EdmondDantes_ 5 hrs ago #160

Dangle $1 million each SonOfNebanaube Saturday #102

I was skeptical about one accuser, as she had a continuing relationship, but with four accusers? Nah, bye Eric Pompoy Yesterday #136

I saw the four women thing too. Linda ladeewolf Yesterday #143

Why? Having Swalwell drop out now helps Democrats. yardwork Saturday #11

That's the problem with CA's jungle primary DemocratSinceBirth Saturday #49

Someone will. That's a certainty. paleotn Saturday #61

Swalwell is finished. DemocratSinceBirth Saturday #68

Yes, he is finished. But that's not the end of the world. paleotn Saturday #71

Four accusers whose accounts have been corroborated DemocratSinceBirth Saturday #75

Putting on a Pedestal Is One Thing WizumbODaSage Saturday #88

So Do I WiVoter Saturday #15

It was self sabotage Fiendish Thingy Saturday #2

Sometimes Democrats need math lessons OR, they need to think of the party before themselves. LeftInTX Saturday #123

Reason No. I-Lost-Count why victims don't speak out: They're seen as saboteurs. WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #4

These threads.... smh. yardwork Saturday #12

It's sad that we're still doing this EdmondDantes_ Saturday #13

He can still run. As a Republican n/t leftstreet Saturday #5

If he could up his numbers to double digits he could be a GOP presidential nominee in 2028. Vinca Saturday #16

Post removed Post removed Saturday #6

Speaking of banning... EYESORE 9001 Saturday #19

Darn!!! Did I just miss a visit from our resident troll??? niyad Saturday #37

How INTERESTING......... some_of_us_are_sane Saturday #20

Hmmmmm, one of our resident trolls, perhaps? And I missed them! niyad Saturday #39

Yes, the library must be closed today. Spazito Saturday #44

LOL!! some_of_us_are_sane Saturday #74

Probably niyad some_of_us_are_sane Saturday #69

Definitely not her first post BumRushDaShow Saturday #60

That doesn't really make sense, though. yardwork Saturday #8

This +1 Emile Saturday #14

https://www.sos.ca.gov/elections/primary-elections-california mikewv Saturday #21

Yep Lifeafter70 Saturday #110

Yes, this is a good point. True Dough Saturday #23

Ah but this is why it is such a cunning plot. Disaffected Saturday #36

And.....? yardwork Saturday #53

How many of those Dems have been as vocal as Swalwell against Piggy? MorbidButterflyTat Saturday #51

It's not a democratic primary, it's a " jungle " primary questionseverything Saturday #55

so all these former Democratic staffers - have reemerged as Republican operatives .. ? stopdiggin Saturday #10

You are 100% correct ABC123Easy Saturday #17

It's a lot better for these accusations to have come out now, LisaL Saturday #18

I am a Katie Porter fan myself! BlueMTexpat Saturday #25

It wouldn't surprise me if it came from a Democrat. Renew Deal Saturday #29

I have to agree, so much infighting. 😔 nt Raine Saturday #129

Roger Stone did it to Al Franken. The Wizard Saturday #33

Took 3 weeks and 6 additional women accusing Franken before the calls to resign EdmondDantes_ Saturday #38

in Franken's case, Stone definitely got the ball rolling but yes, Franken chose to resign. He wasn't forced out. LymphocyteLover Saturday #43

I don't think so. Think of it as a blessing this came out now and not further down the road. LymphocyteLover Saturday #42

Agree mikewv Saturday #47

I sure hope so! LymphocyteLover Saturday #122

Absolutely. MorbidButterflyTat Saturday #46

Tee yourself up and guess what happens? FiveFifteen Saturday #48

Sigh. So, we're still not believing the women. Political party doesn't matter, it's all about not believing the women. mucholderthandirt Saturday #52

So we should hang a man before we have any evidence? Autumn Saturday #108

100% this obamanut2012 Saturday #54

Why are these allegations only surfacing now? dlk Saturday #56

Did you doubt E Jean Carroll or Christine Blasey Ford? EdmondDantes_ Saturday #64

Apparently you missed the line in my post, "Women should be believed" dlk Saturday #111

One of the incidents was in 2024. And it often happens that after some woman finally comes forward, pnwmom Yesterday #138

Has Eric responded? GreenWave Saturday #57

He did apologize to his wife for "past errors" whatever that means. Otherwise it was a denial. 33taw Saturday #73

It means he had lots of extramarital sex. mr715 Yesterday #133

Simply stating what he said. I don't have enough info to have an opinion. 33taw Yesterday #134

Conspiracy theories always going to happen. Jacson6 Saturday #58

Better chance? How about just slightly above zero chance. paleotn Saturday #59

See if there is some outfit that is bankrolling them. valleyrogue Saturday #62

This perspective is bullshit. hunter Saturday #63

And these are very serious allegations jfz9580m Saturday #120

I agree. Remember Joe Biden. Let's get to the truth. Joinfortmill Saturday #66

It's the double standard Ibapah Saturday #72

Where is Roger stone in this? UpInArms Saturday #76

I thought you were going to say how our supposed ally, Israel, is really screwing the USA over and over. My mistake. nt Exp Saturday #77

We should know our candidates better. When they tell you who they are the first time believe them. Walleye Saturday #80

"repugs are playing chess while the Democrats are playing checkers." J_William_Ryan Saturday #81

I read the San Francisco Chronicle article this morning. cksmithy Saturday #82

He deserves the same hearing as the Dem refused Franken RVN VET71 Saturday #83

Actually that is not likely to be true karynnj Saturday #84

Didn't 16 or 17 women accuse TrumpenFuhrer of the same thing and REPUBLICANS DIDNT CARE??? NoMoreRepugs Saturday #86

I think the number was higher than that MustLoveBeagles Yesterday #135

Yes, if Swalwell is responsible for sexual assault, he needs be held to account Grim Chieftain Saturday #87

They did this to Al Franklin too (nt) Pluvious Saturday #89

If he didn't do anything wrong IMO he should stay in the gov race and immediately file a lawsuit in2herbs Saturday #91

No mater what, the timing is sus SpankMe Saturday #95

it doesn't "prove that men are scum" Skittles Saturday #100

Of course you're right SpankMe 53 min ago #173

Maybe a good time for this RoseTrellis Saturday #96

I don't think so... WarGamer Saturday #99

Why isn't abuse believed pattyloutwo Saturday #101

Exactly, this is a hit job. Initech Saturday #104

The reactions here spotlight the hypocrisy of the republicans liberal N proud Saturday #105

No matter what he is guilty of making bad decisions!!! Pisces Saturday #106

I'm a California voter... GJGCA Saturday #107

I love the quote, ""Love is not love / Which alters when it alteration finds / Or bends with the remover to remove." Martin68 Saturday #109

Epanalepsis, on the other hand... GJGCA Saturday #112

Love the Virginia Wolf quote. Martin68 Yesterday #142

She threw Biden under the bus too TexasBushwhacker 23 hrs ago #151

they are at war, we are playing by the rules. pansypoo53219 Saturday #114

They have abandoned the rules especially the rule of law. live love laugh Saturday #117

full scale cheating for sure. pansypoo53219 Saturday #130

Swalwell"s Staff Has Thrown Him Under the Bus Locutusofborg Saturday #115

Who always benefits from these things? That's where the focus should also be. live love laugh Saturday #116

This news about Swalwell sucks.... but IcyPeas Saturday #119

Face the facts.. raising2moredems Saturday #124

I think the difference is that the republicans support the nastiest, hidden elements of the government. They are the LT Barclay Saturday #125

I hear roger stone was in on this Clouds Passing Saturday #126

Until there is proof of misconduct he should not step down. If kacekwl Saturday #127

So Katie Porter isn't electable because she used a swear word, but we're supposed pnwmom Yesterday #137

I don't know. There's a lot of Democrats running which is being reported splits the vote and allowing the 2 Rs to Jbraybarten Yesterday #140

This is just pure nonsense. The only ones who want Swalwell to stay in the race at this point are Republicans. tritsofme Yesterday #146

Two things... grumpyduck 23 hrs ago #153

What is so hard to believe about a federal level politician misanthrope 11 hrs ago #158

A very strong grip on a singlular narrative Torchlight 4 hrs ago #164

NOPE Happy Hoosier 4 hrs ago #165