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Emrys

(9,128 posts)
18. Nuclear power will have a similar effect
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 02:28 PM
7 hrs ago

I'll focus again on Hinkley Point C.

To save me a lot of summarizing and typing to a possibly impervious audience, you can read its history here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_Point_C_nuclear_power_station

Its development was granted a licence in 2012. Today, after many years, it still isn't built. It's slated to come online by 2030. Anyone who wants to place a bet on that happening needs to read that history.

As preparations ground on, in 2016 it was supposed to cost £18 billion and be activated by 2025. Currently, it's predicted by EDF, its prime investor, to come partially online in 2030, for a cost of £48 billion at current prices.

EDF is a French company, with the Chinese CGN an earlier partner that has backpedalled its involvement considerably since the scheme was first floated.

You might assume, since France has long put pretty much all its eggs in one basket, with about 57 operating reactors accounting for some 70% of its energy generation, that they know what they're doing. Well.

One thing about nuclear power plants as we know them is that they require access to large bodies of water for cooling and steam generation. Hence many of them are located on the coast, as is the case with Hinkley.

And what is predicted to happen to sea levels in the mid- to long-term future? If you want to bet that sufficient account has been taken of this, given the "unforeseen" problems that have beset this development over the years, be my guest. There's also the issue of storms, which are widely predicted to become more ferocious and frequent as the century wears on.

Given the number of nuclear plants in France and the country's size, EDF couldn't site all of them on the coast. Many were sited near rivers to provide the water supply needed.

Maybe the assumption was that these would always flow and provide sufficiently cool water for operations.

That assumption has begun to unravel in recent years:

Low Water, High Water Temps Force French Nuclear Plants to Cut Output Despite Rising Demand

Declining water levels in French rivers have revealed a key weakness in relying on nuclear power to supply clean energy in a climate emergency—nuclear reactors need to cut output when climate change lowers water levels and raises water temperatures, even as energy demand rises.

“While a lot of the nuclear public relations relates to nuclear as a sort of saviour of climate change, unfortunately, the reverse is true,” Paul Dorfman, chair of the Nuclear Consulting Group and a senior academic at the University of Sussex, told Ankara, Türkiye-based Anadolu Ajansi.

“Nuclear will be a significant and early climate casualty.”

The interplay of climate change, water, and nuclear power is fairly straightforward. Climate change increases the occurrence of both heat waves and droughts, which lower water levels and raise demand for energy to power cooling appliances. Nuclear power plants rely on access to freshwater to cool reactors. If there is not enough freshwater for cooling, or that water is too warm, the nuclear plant needs to scale back, even as consumers crank up their air conditioners.

Several nuclear generating plants in Europe this year have already reduced output or shut down because water sources are too shallow or too hot, including nearly all of France’s 18 nuclear facilities, says Anadolu Ajansi.

https://www.theenergymix.com/low-water-high-water-temps-force-french-nuclear-plants-to-cut-output-despite-rising-demand/


I'm not about to try to teach a DUer about irony, but there it is.

This raises again what I posted about earlier - about the opportunity cost. Hinkley has been very expensive and has taken up a lot of time and engineering and political energy, but has yet to produce a glimmer of electricity. And its carbon footprint has been vast.

In that time, how many renewable research projects and actual installations could have been fielded for that outlay?

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We could learn a lot from our European friends if we would get our head out of our ass. walkingman 12 hrs ago #1
It has NOTHING to do with our heads up our asses. Conjuay 11 hrs ago #2
Both are true. yardwork 11 hrs ago #6
Scotland regularly generates an electricity surplus over its own requirements Emrys 11 hrs ago #3
Decades of these kinds of momentary 100% reports demonstrate... NNadir 11 hrs ago #4
This isn't a "momentary" surplus, nor is it unreliable. Emrys 11 hrs ago #7
Nonsense. It isn't rocket science to understand that the wind doesn't blow continuously. NNadir 10 hrs ago #9
I was just thinking the other day I hadn't seen an NNadir pro-nuke post in awhile AZJonnie 9 hrs ago #10
Wind power will only prolong our dependence on fossil fuels. hunter 9 hrs ago #13
Yes I've read many dozens of NNadir's posts over the years, you don't have to get me up to speed AZJonnie 8 hrs ago #15
The best ways to halt human population growth are not coercive. hunter 7 hrs ago #16
Nuclear power will have a similar effect Emrys 7 hrs ago #18
Low wind and no sunshine cause renewable energy shutdowns constantly. hunter 4 hrs ago #20
Hence my emphasis throughout on a MIX of resources Emrys 3 hrs ago #23
Bullshit. Hickley C will be saving lives half a century after every wind turbine in Scotland has become landfill. NNadir 3 hrs ago #21
Oh, bullshit yourself. Emrys 3 hrs ago #24
Nonsense yourself. I think you fit very well the description of an ideologue Emrys 9 hrs ago #12
Could it be that's what the fossil fuel industry wants you to think? hunter 7 hrs ago #17
I don't know why you think that. Emrys 7 hrs ago #19
Human ingenuity sometimes (not often, but sometimes) Torchlight 11 hrs ago #5
really good DoBW 11 hrs ago #8
They will need to be bombed over this and their regime changed. Too threatening to Big Oil. (SARCASM). artemisia1 9 hrs ago #11
Gee. Who WOULDN'T want that for the USA and planet earth? Kid Berwyn 9 hrs ago #14
Wouldn't it be great to read, United States of America temporarily ran entirely on wind power... Passages 3 hrs ago #22
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