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Ocelot II

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10. Even if this particular president weren't dangerously insane

Mon Apr 6, 2026, 12:08 PM

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to the point where the WH officials during his first reign of terror were afraid that he'd have them killed if they tried to do #25 on him, the whole mechanism is cumbersome and was clearly designed for a situation where a president was (probably temporarily) incapacitated and someone had to take over for a period of time until he either recovered or didn't. Another reason why it won't work this time is that even if the cabinet members weren't afraid of mortal consequences, they wouldn't vote to remove Trump because they know Vance would promptly sack them in order to install his own toadies.

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Why the 25th Amendment will probably not be invoked for Trump [View all] surfered Monday OP

3 word explanation: Republicans are cowards ck4829 Monday #1

You spelled "complicit" wrong. GoCubsGo Monday #9

The 25th was meant for situations where the president was "out of action" Takket Monday #2

+1 Shrek Monday #6

What is your evidence of this? spooky3 Monday #11

because look at how the 25th is removed after it is invoked Takket Monday #23

But that's simply your view, not the language of the amendment. spooky3 Monday #24

2/3rds of the House and 2/3rds of the Senate will NOT vote to say he is unfit Celerity Yesterday #34

The language of the amendment doesn't help your argument. onenote 4 hrs ago #36

Lawrence O'Donnell disagrees. spooky3 Yesterday #31

On the other hand, Turbineguy Monday #3

We will have to wait for the midterms RainCaster Monday #4

I keep asking the question. Why don't we have a method to stop the madness? yellow dahlia Monday #5

We do. Greg_In_SF Monday #12

Relying on one thing; "elections" is not the best way to go about this, when it comes to stopping madmen ck4829 Monday #29

We definitely need more methods than just elections, that's for sure ck4829 Monday #28

Especially elections that can be rigged. yellow dahlia Monday #30

Highly unlikely mikewv Monday #7

Impeachment is actually easier from a numbers standpoint tinrobot Monday #18

Yes and it should have happened mikewv Monday #19

The word at the time was ITAL Monday #25

Coup de tete Johnny2X2X Monday #8

Even if this particular president weren't dangerously insane Ocelot II Monday #10

Vance has toadies? Who knew. I thought everyone hated him. unblock Monday #14

There are plenty of ambitious people around who would be eager to be a toady's toady. Ocelot II Monday #15

Interestingly, the skills set needed to be a good (well, let's say 'effective') dictator unblock Monday #17

Removal by impeachment is much easier, and even that ain't happening. unblock Monday #13

The majority of department heads are as crazy as he is. Sneederbunk Monday #16

Who ever thought this was a possibility? BlueTsunami2018 Monday #20

Cowards and Complicit since 2016 RANDYWILDMAN Monday #21

He's been firing his cabinet members. Rumors are he wants to fire more. Intractable Monday #22

The Republican party is complicit bob4460 Monday #26

So what do we do? He's becoming increasingly unhinged and drunk with power. Initech Monday #27

Should I hold my breath and wait for bootlicking nazi halfwits to act like decent human beings? struggle4progress Yesterday #32

This clown cabinet isn't going to bring the 25th on Krasnov. GoodRaisin Yesterday #33

Deadline Legal Blog-How the 25th Amendment would work against Trump amid his Iran belligerence LetMyPeopleVote 4 hrs ago #35

Sadly, yes. surfered 3 hrs ago #37

It's always been fantasy. WarGamer 2 hrs ago #38