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Fiendish Thingy

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27. I object to this statement:

Fri Apr 3, 2026, 03:56 PM

Apr 3

THEY DIE. If the aircraft is (1) hit with any kind of fire – missile, shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missile, machine gun fire, a lucky shot from and AK-47 on the ground; or, (2) something breaks inside the aircraft, either way, it’s all over. Pieces of flesh and body parts may be recovered if the whole thing doesn’t burn to a crisp.

This is clearly not true- several planes were shot down by friendly fire in the first hours of the war, and the pilots ejected safely- there is even video circulating of Kuwaitis “rescuing” a pilot who is standing calmly immediately after landing after ejecting. They run up to her and ask her if she is OK, and she calmly tells them she is fine.

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About the F-15 downed over Iran [View all] AverageOldGuy Apr 3 OP

This war is only real for the military involved and those that really care about Whyisthisstillclose Apr 3 #1

... sporting event,... magicarpet Apr 3 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author graycampervan Apr 3 #60

Good info. As I understand it, getting one or both legs broken during the ejection is not uncommon at all underpants Apr 3 #2

Spinal compression. Arthur_Frain Apr 3 #8

I would think so yeah. I know a certain number a parachute jumps underpants Apr 3 #12

Back when I was in they were limited to 3 ejections... Wounded Bear Apr 3 #14

It actually has changed InstantGratification Apr 3 #59

You get grounded for losing 2 aircraft... druidity33 Apr 3 #52

Great post fujiyamasan Apr 3 #3

From the vision of the fighter pilot,.. magicarpet Apr 3 #4

There were several planes shot down by friendly fire at the very beginning of this war Fiendish Thingy Apr 3 #6

His post is accurate. Ejecting is a very violent process, and injuries due to ejection are common...nt Wounded Bear Apr 3 #15

I object to this statement: Fiendish Thingy Apr 3 #27

He clearly said, they die or eject, or at least it was clear to me questionseverything Apr 3 #30

Seems like a pattern. Brenda Apr 3 #32

He was a bit unclear. He was offering scenarios... Wounded Bear Apr 3 #35

Why do you do this? You could have easily contacted the OP privately or at the least been polite. Joinfortmill Apr 3 #41

I didn't intend to be rude Fiendish Thingy Apr 3 #51

That was the first of two outcomes explained. Pacifist Patriot Saturday #69

Let's get real here. The difference between dying instantly or walking away is pure luck. flashman13 Apr 3 #43

Define safety. littlemissmartypants Apr 3 #18

There is a video shot in Kuwait of a pilot standing calmly immediately after landing Fiendish Thingy Apr 3 #22

Define safely. littlemissmartypants Apr 3 #23

And by the way, I can think of at least one person... littlemissmartypants Apr 3 #25

Thank you for this info! nt City Lights Apr 3 #7

While one would expect capturing and keeping alive to be the rational move for Iran's leadership RockRaven Apr 3 #9

And some Iranians have had non-combatant loved ones killed, .... 70sEraVet Saturday #68

I very much appreciate your non-video game description. democrank Apr 3 #10

My brother flew both f15 and f16 in the first Iraq war Lifeafter70 Apr 3 #11

Your post reminds me of the YouTube video PCIntern Apr 3 #13

I have a friend who has actually ejected from an F-15. He said once is enough Callie1979 Apr 3 #16

Thank you. niyad Apr 3 #17

A uh-60 Blackhawk was also apparently hit. James48 Apr 3 #19

The pilots are war criminals at this point Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 3 #20

That's nonsense ornotna Apr 3 #29

Pilots know the destruction they wield Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 3 #31

When's the last time a US war was "declared"? EX500rider Apr 3 #38

that's all true Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 3 #39

Many war crimes are committed in all wars, declared or not EX500rider Apr 3 #40

yep Eddie Haskell 60 Apr 3 #42

Quite the unsuprorted assertion Torchlight Apr 3 #54

Horseshit. 11 Bravo Apr 3 #57

I know truth is uncomfortable Eddie Haskell 60 Saturday #74

Loss of life is horrible. Loss of a highly trained, experienced specialist pilot is even worse. littlemissmartypants Apr 3 #21

All I know is Trump has created a mess newdeal2 Apr 3 #24

That's all you or any of us need to know. calimary Saturday #65

Thank you! nt wiggs Apr 3 #26

Thanks For The Info Coolgoober Apr 3 #28

I have seen stories that the second guy is alive and back in Iraq now relayerbob Apr 3 #33

Sheesh... I hope you're right. calimary Saturday #64

Thank you for that horrifying but detailed description, AOG. Buddyzbuddy Apr 3 #34

That ejection True Dough Apr 3 #36

There are really no words, people. Just read it. Joinfortmill Apr 3 #37

Rethuglicans are the worst enemy America has ever had. OMGWTF Apr 3 #44

I would urge those fujiyamasan Apr 3 #45

Interesting information but I stopped when his hand went through his glasses and into his face. I suspected AI. chowder66 Apr 3 #55

Good catch. AZ8theist Saturday #71

I thought maybe he's neurodivergent for a second. I checked below for the disclaimer chowder66 Saturday #73

Thanks, I'll admit I didn't watch the whole thing fujiyamasan Saturday #75

Mostly correct RoseTrellis Apr 3 #46

I would say BEFORE you can be even considered to hold the SECDEF position, you need to experience ALL the training level usaf-vet Apr 3 #47

I'd be happy with someone loyal to the constitution Mysterian Apr 3 #49

According to my brother the training doesn't end Lifeafter70 Apr 3 #56

Don't forget, experience being waterboarded. LudwigPastorius Saturday #62

Thanks for this, NotSoAverageOldGuy.. Permanut Apr 3 #48

Ditto, Permanut. ancianita Saturday #66

Trump and Hegseth are treating this like a Hollywood Movie 3825-87867 Apr 3 #50

God bless you for putting the truth out orangecrush Apr 3 #53

You do NOT 'land in the seat' RetiredParatrooper Apr 3 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author wolfie001 Apr 3 #61

My heart is heavy Puppyjive Saturday #63

Iranian military personnel might treat a downed American pilot relatively well. cab67 Saturday #67

Great post. Life is precious. Let's not forget. twodogsbarking Saturday #70

It's upsetting that we haven't heard the condition of any of the other wounded or pilots Walleye Saturday #72