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In reply to the discussion: Hegseth undermines miitary discipline [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(180,213 posts)33. MaddowBlog-Hegseth's intervention in Kid Rock flyby fiasco is part of a more serious problem
Even Donald Trump conceded that the helicopter pilots probably shouldnt have done what they did. His defense secretary came to a different conclusion.
Hegsethâs intervention in Kid Rock flyby fiasco was ridiculous, but itâs the larger context that matters:
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2026-04-01T14:50:01.253Z
An apolitical military is a foundational, bedrock principle of the United States. It is a principle for which Team Trump has no use, creating an untenable dynamic.
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/kid-rock-helicopter-hegseth-trump
Even Donald Trump conceded on Monday that the helicopter pilots probably shouldnt have been doing it since youre not supposed to be playing games, right?
The presidents defense secretary, however, came to a very different conclusion soon after. The New York Times reported:
The Times added that the moves represented a remarkable intervention from the highest level of the Pentagon, adding that the decree was another indication of his contempt for legal guardrails in the military.......
An apolitical military is a foundational, bedrock principle of the United States. Partisan, ideological and electoral considerations must be utterly irrelevant to what the military is and how it functions.
It is nevertheless a principle for which Trump and his team appear to have no use, creating an untenable dynamic: In a healthy democracy, the politicization of the military isnt just misguided, its also genuinely dangerous.
In October, The Atlantics Tom Nichols highlighted what he described as an ongoing civil-military crisis, arguing that Trump and his valet at the Defense Department, Secretary of Physical Training Pete Hegseth, are now making a dedicated run at turning the men and women of the armed forces into Trumps personal and partisan army.
Hegseths intervention in the Kid Rock flyby fiasco offered timely evidence that bolstered the underlying fears.
The presidents defense secretary, however, came to a very different conclusion soon after. The New York Times reported:
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Tuesday abruptly reversed the suspension of Army crews that piloted two Apache helicopters close to the musician Kid Rocks residence in Nashville over the weekend. [ ]
Mr. Hegseth appeared to end both the suspensions and the investigation, with a social media post on Tuesday night declaring: No punishment. No investigation. Carry on, patriots.
The Times added that the moves represented a remarkable intervention from the highest level of the Pentagon, adding that the decree was another indication of his contempt for legal guardrails in the military.......
An apolitical military is a foundational, bedrock principle of the United States. Partisan, ideological and electoral considerations must be utterly irrelevant to what the military is and how it functions.
It is nevertheless a principle for which Trump and his team appear to have no use, creating an untenable dynamic: In a healthy democracy, the politicization of the military isnt just misguided, its also genuinely dangerous.
In October, The Atlantics Tom Nichols highlighted what he described as an ongoing civil-military crisis, arguing that Trump and his valet at the Defense Department, Secretary of Physical Training Pete Hegseth, are now making a dedicated run at turning the men and women of the armed forces into Trumps personal and partisan army.
Hegseths intervention in the Kid Rock flyby fiasco offered timely evidence that bolstered the underlying fears.
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If there was an unfortunate incident like a crash, kid pebbles family would have sued the shit out of DOD!!!
Devilsun
Apr 1
#2
When you become a military officer you are no longer just a youngster. You are a grown up and are
flashman13
Apr 1
#8
That was my first thought as well. This creates a much bigger, more dangerous problem
RockRaven
Apr 1
#17
MaddowBlog-Hegseth's intervention in Kid Rock flyby fiasco is part of a more serious problem
LetMyPeopleVote
Apr 1
#33