General Discussion

This is why I have endured even some of my more annoying colleagues (whose judgement I disagreed with - being a tech hater from way back).
Look at the kinds of truly horrifying skeletons even people like Cesar Chavez have. Mahatma Gandhi was the same. He used to do unacceptable things to his family members.

I remember thinking sardonically during some of the worst years of my life if some of those forward thinking crews out there have considered lame metaphoric analogies that would in this …


At least they just have horrible judgements about how “Tech will Save the World!”. That was one of President Obama’s weaknesses imo. He was never sleazy or irresponsible. But he did have this sort of limpid trust in tech which those of us battle-hardened by real world exposure to EECS and its bs would be less susceptible to.


How could anyone actually irl be that daft even back in 2011? That is an extra wide-eyed take on tech coupled with paranoid levels of suspicion of random disheveled stoners.

They (EECS etc) defrauded me early on irisblue!

Looking back over my life I have been relatively lucky in always being in that “in the dead middle” contingent, lacking any desire to climb, but infuriated at the thought of dropping lower.

So I have ended up being defrauded more than harassed or taken advantage of in these ways. I am sick of being defrauded but I suppose it is a kind of fortune to at least be able to avoid any kind of sexual exploitation. That would be unthinkable.

Whatever happens, no human (female or male), should ever implicitly accept a new social or professional contract that is significantly inferior to the one preceding it.

I bring it up because sexual harassment and sexual creepiness are a zero tolerance area imo. Most women would agree. And what this story and others like it highlight is how shocking it is when highly respected figures like these have skeletons.

It is one reason I like science and medicine. On average fewer perverts to contend with. Generally most scientists I know are like President Obama.
They may be susceptible to a type of poor judgement call - like respecting Larry Summers or Facebook/Google back in 2011. But well that is a forgivable error if you see it as an error. Though really..with Larry Summers…

Google otoh has no shortage of perverts .

In a way, I guess it is kind of heartwarming when things are tacky, sleazy and generally disgraceful, but at least no sexual abuse-or God..I shrilly declaim that -surely no one anyone would know would be worse than..well these like a disastrously negligent university admin I once came across (also EECS - that field is a threat to civil society as we knew it).