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Sympthsical

(10,952 posts)
46. I understand that
Mon Mar 16, 2026, 05:29 PM
Monday

But I imagine that student isn't every student either.

I returned to college in my 40s for a career change. I've seen what students nowadays can be like. It's . . . concerning. But this place can get a little, "the problem with youngins today . . ." and I wanted to provide some balance to the equation.

I have some solid professors. My current OB professor is so knowledgeable and eager to share.

But I have, in the past five years, encountered an increasing number of professors who offload teaching tasks to technology out of laziness, don't really engage in developing the critical thinking skills of their students (the Power Point People), or see a course as a series of boxes they check to say they did it so they can get paid.

As an adult student with years of experience in professional spaces, I have an extremely jaundiced view of some of these individuals, and I'm not afraid to address them as peers (which I know some of them do not appreciate).

I just wanted to counterpoint DU's strong "Kids today!" lean with a "Yes, but adults raised them," acknowledgement. I'm an older Millennial, and it got wearisome long ago to see elders getting all snitty about Millennials and Gen Z without acknowledging they're the products of the system the adults put into place.

If an 18 year old shows at up to college barely able to read, write, or think critically - and I've met plenty in recent years - is that really on the kid at that point? Someone has been letting that slide for years.

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Probably too busy texting to listen to you. Ritabert Monday #1
Exactly. Ray Bruns 18 hrs ago #61
"Yes. No. Check Your Class Notes." ColoringFool Monday #2
This, right here. relayerbob Monday #20
Tell them: the most important thing you need to learn from this class... Wounded Bear Monday #3
So frustrating. Traildogbob Monday #4
They don't have to buy a report. All they have to do is use a free dumbing-down tool from one of highplainsdem Monday #15
Wow. Traildogbob Monday #22
Teaching is challenging, and an existentially important profession. What the AI companies have done to it is highplainsdem Monday #29
AI is one of the most frightening developments out there right now. COL Mustard Monday #30
I can relate. Conjuay 17 hrs ago #64
The AI companies have leaned very hard into promoting AI "democratizing" talent - letting people highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #65
"As I age, death does not seem as horrifying as it used to be" llmart 15 hrs ago #73
Write them back, saying... Totally Tunsie Monday #5
Except be president. ananda Monday #10
But only if he has a multimillionaire father who is willing to bankroll all his failures! 🤣 ShazzieB Monday #33
I heard an interview several years ago on NPR mcar Monday #6
and "I wasted my whole weekend studying when I could have been having a good time!" erronis Monday #8
Yep mcar Monday #19
I actually recall that when I tutored back in the 70s GenThePerservering Monday #13
And "teaching to the test" where tests have become easier to grade - multiple choices, etc. erronis Monday #21
The Republican's Dumbing Down America is working...... popsdenver 15 hrs ago #69
I went to a Jesuit uni in the late 70s mcar Monday #34
I was always glad when a test or quiz was postponed. LisaM Monday #24
"I will teach you to think." BarbD Monday #41
In 1963 I was told "Think before you speak, then don't speak" dickthegrouch 14 hrs ago #75
Maybe I'm old-fashioned, but it's the students' fault MadameButterfly Monday #48
Sometimes it isn't about learning vs memorizing... it's about recall OhioBlue Monday #53
Well, sorry you didn't get to raise your grade MadameButterfly Yesterday #60
I had a house mate in 1990 IbogaProject 14 hrs ago #74
Having spent the last 3 days studying for an art history exam, Ms. Toad 5 hrs ago #87
"...do I have to go out of my way to find the research?" CBHagman Monday #7
and his definition of "go out of my way to find the research" is probably ask chatGPT. (n/t) thesquanderer Monday #17
Since many students gravitate to AI's as their first source of information ... SomewhereInTheMiddle Yesterday #59
Tell the student they can get five points of credit on the assignment... littlemissmartypants Monday #9
But don't hold your breath while waiting SheltieLover Monday #27
Exactly. I taught at a state college in NC. littlemissmartypants Yesterday #56
When I was in Catechism class and I failed to pay attention I got a ruler across the hand. Jacson6 Monday #11
Brace yourself. There's more of them coming up through GPV Monday #12
How sad. LoisB Monday #14
I quit teaching after 15 years because of stuff like this perdita9 Monday #16
That must be BEYOND frustrating OddMom20 Monday #18
I've never been a teacher.. bless every one of you mountain grammy Monday #23
Also retired prof here... flor-de-jasmim Monday #25
Answer email with message to refer to their class notes. SheltieLover Monday #26
Classes need Helper Captains in the class to prod the sheep along bucolic_frolic Monday #28
You didn't mention whether the student was male or female. I would guess it was a male. flashman13 Monday #31
Yes, a male. nt Coventina Monday #37
"...don't be an ignorant creep..." is a good place to start. 3catwoman3 Monday #43
Agree completely Grim Chieftain Monday #32
You didn't say if the student could read. Sneederbunk Monday #35
Let me provide some balance here Sympthsical Monday #36
I am not that kind of professor AT ALL. Coventina Monday #39
I understand that Sympthsical Monday #46
It's not every student, but a lot of them. Coventina Monday #50
Oh, it'd be a whole conversation Sympthsical 15 hrs ago #68
Critical thinking isn't the focus of a K-12 education anymore, if it ever really was. Jedi Guy 13 hrs ago #76
I love your asignment! Mossfern Monday #49
Thanks! You're so kind! Yes, I'm an art history professor. Coventina Monday #51
Hmmm, let's see BlueSpot Monday #55
You did really well for someone without prior knowledge! Coventina 15 hrs ago #67
Interesting BlueSpot 5 hrs ago #86
A little Trump in the making? peppertree Monday #38
According to his sister BaronChocula 13 hrs ago #77
Smacks of effort, man. cab67 Monday #40
The student's nose is probably superglued to their phone, so they missed class despite being there. Vinca Monday #42
I want to sign up for your class. Permanut Monday #44
Geez Figarosmom Monday #45
Lets hear it Cherokee100 Monday #47
gawd I'm glad I'm out mike_c Monday #52
Jeezus. Joinfortmill Monday #54
Is this class an elective or a requirement for a degree? fujiyamasan Yesterday #57
IOW, ChatGPT couldn't figure it out for them. n/t flvegan Yesterday #58
Graphic Organizers Scalded Nun 17 hrs ago #62
"Ask a classmate who was paying attention when I gave instructions." Reader Rabbit 17 hrs ago #63
Wow D_Master81 16 hrs ago #66
I've seen lots of articles and social media posts about many college kids being shocked if they're highplainsdem 15 hrs ago #72
Are you an Art History prof? Happy Hoosier 15 hrs ago #70
Yes I am. Coventina 11 hrs ago #80
Awesome, she just returned from Italy on an Art History field trip over Spring Break. NT Happy Hoosier 11 hrs ago #82
I did a study abroad trip with my students to Florence for a month back in 2023. Coventina 10 hrs ago #84
They didn't have anynproblems... Happy Hoosier 9 hrs ago #85
Maybe the only thing this student (and others?) may learn from you is the meaning of CONSEQUENCES! ihaveaquestion 15 hrs ago #71
You're in school. Mblaze 13 hrs ago #78
"Do you want a good result?" OldBaldy1701E 12 hrs ago #79
I'm having a hard time understanding the replies here given OP's presentation of the assignment. Ilikepurple 11 hrs ago #81
"go out of my way" lol...there is a non so subtle messag in that phrase BlueWaveNeverEnd 11 hrs ago #83
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