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69. don't blame Democrats for that
Wed Mar 11, 2026, 09:48 AM
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...at least not to someone who paid attention to those fights.

We haven't had a veto-proof majority or a filibuster resistant majority in ages, so it's really something to portray those losses as some lack of Democratic party will when you should know well that we not only faced filibusters, but had two republican friendly Democrats, TWO, who kept us from achieving SOME planks of our Democratic agenda, both in committee and on the floor in the respective chambers.

What you've written here is a projection, not proof of anything except maybe your own disappointment that something or the other didn't get accomplished.

The thing is, without a Democratic majority, NONE of what you want will EVER get accomplished.

What we saw last election were some very stupid protests against Democrats which assumed there was going to be some epic changes to the Democratic party that would come about by just sitting on their hands and allowing republicans to get control of all branches of government.

Brilliant plan from these folks who can't seem to grasp the fact that our party is a coalition of often disparate and diverse interests which have chosen to unite to give their initiatives a chance to advance through the legislature into action of law.

Not every initiative or interest is guaranteed in that process, but politics isn't always a zero-sum enterprise.

The 'overlords' projected here as omnipresent and overpowering only have one vote apiece. Their interest is to divide our Democratic votes, and they did a good job of that divisiveness last election, even though we got damn close in the House.

Vote for the Democratic nominee, elect a Democratic majority, and argue all of that out in a position of power. Ignore the people insisting on perpetually fighting those primary battles as if they can magically make legislative solutions happen without building coalitions of like-minded legislators who may well disagree on some things.

Resist those who treat governing like a campaign, and can't or won't tell you the actual legislative plan or political path to what they say they want, because, for any political movement to succeed it must have a legislative solution at it's end, as well as sufficient numbers of Democrats in office to make those aspirations and ideals happen.

Anyone who strays from that equation is auguring for even more of this bickering in the minority, instead of the progressive progress that ALL Democratic majorities achieve, every time they're in power.

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Preach Coach Traildogbob Tuesday #1
Fuck the high road and fuck the norms. Stop turning the other cheek. dalton99a Tuesday #2
Carrot and stick WSHazel Tuesday #4
We need leaders who will "get the lead out"... BattleRow Tuesday #17
Yes RetiredParatrooper Tuesday #51
I agree with him MustLoveBeagles Tuesday #3
Just think, he could be vice president now LiberalBrooke Tuesday #5
FYI: He made it clear he didn't have any presidential aspirations ... Auggie Tuesday #33
What does he mean by "breaking the norms"? An eviction freeze would go a long way toward walking the talk in MN rn. WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #6
He was referring to Trump destroying things leftstreet Tuesday #8
I'd find it helpful if he had some examples of how he's doing that in MN WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #9
True enough n/t leftstreet Tuesday #10
He's talking about Dems doing more of what Republicans do. hamsterjill Tuesday #12
okay but like he could be doing this himself, yes? In Minnesota? Because I remember a lot of strongly worded statements WhiskeyGrinder Tuesday #14
Yes, he most assuredly could be doing this - setting an example. hamsterjill Tuesday #37
I think Dems would have a great platform if dickthegrouch Tuesday #28
I think voters generally want and expect integrity from Democrats, but we've got to get control back first. hamsterjill Tuesday #41
Yep. The one option that's LEAST desirable calimary Wednesday #58
I wish Mr. Jeffries and Mr. Schumer would take these words to heart Mysterian Tuesday #7
The most corrupt president in US history Grim Chieftain Tuesday #11
Hear! Hear! yellow dahlia Tuesday #56
here's something to chew on bigtree Wednesday #73
Exactly! Betty Boom Tuesday #13
And that disapproval doesn't translate to Bettie Wednesday #68
You betcha. (n/t) DJ Synikus Makisimus Tuesday #15
Yup. We coulda had him. And, Trump cheated. Just saying, peeps. Joinfortmill Tuesday #16
We dems have been engaged in a war popsdenver Tuesday #18
+1. Heck, we had people on here who were severely criticized for calling Trump a traitor/racist/dictator/Nazi/rapist dalton99a Tuesday #21
+1 leftstreet Tuesday #52
Just think! Linda ladeewolf Tuesday #19
Exactly fuck'em makes them sue, cry and whine themselve into a tither Historic NY Tuesday #20
I like Tim, but DownriverDem Tuesday #22
He isn't either, what he is sick of is Bettie Wednesday #67
But the approval numbers for Dems in Congress say he's right. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #76
100% Snackshack Tuesday #23
+1. "We must move on. It's all good. Nothing happened." dalton99a Tuesday #29
Exactly jfz9580m Wednesday #59
Well far and beyond time to fight back by any means necessary. Six117 Tuesday #24
What would you have our Democrats do? I'm guessing you must have some PLAN of action... QueerDuck Tuesday #38
Sure. I'm sure when you go to work you wait for random people to tell you how to effectively do your job. Scrivener7 Wednesday #62
Even in the YouTube HFY stories on space adventures, the politician sending "Sternly Worded Letter" is present LiberalArkie Tuesday #25
Thank you, Walz. JBTaurus83 Tuesday #26
Directive, organization, humanpower and follow-through. More is definitely needed. twodogsbarking Tuesday #27
Dems are "prisoners of the norms, prisoners of the institutions." summer_in_TX Tuesday #30
That, and Dems need to understand that they are using a broken system to fix a broken system. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #48
That is a great way to describe it. Scrivener7 Wednesday #61
He's right SunImp Tuesday #31
"he says well why can't Democrats can "break the norms" for things like national healthcare" J_William_Ryan Tuesday #32
It's spot on. iemanja Tuesday #35
We've been furiously reading through The Marquess of Queensberry Rules of boxing hadEnuf Tuesday #34
"Weird." -- Walz on Trump, Couchhumper, MAGA and Project 2025 Kid Berwyn Tuesday #36
The same thing happened to Sarah Palin. ihaveaquestion Tuesday #50
that meme is bullshit bigtree Tuesday #39
Yes. Yelling "NERDS!" at Democrats. betsuni Tuesday #44
Fuck this shit, we need real opposition to the thug regime and their propaganda and we need it yesterday! Initech Tuesday #40
Oh, but strongly worded scolding of Democrats is really doing something. Everybody loves to be angry at Democrats. betsuni Tuesday #42
True. This performative "blame the Dems" reflex is a gift to the GOP. QueerDuck Tuesday #45
It's perfect. Convince your enemy to spend its time attacking itself as the enemy. betsuni Tuesday #46
I agree with you. OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #53
we fucking had a historical legislative session with historical legislative accomplishments bigtree Wednesday #65
Umm... OldBaldy1701E Wednesday #66
don't blame Democrats for that bigtree Wednesday #69
Ahh... so my ideals are 'personal projections' that no one else wants. OldBaldy1701E 18 hrs ago #74
the 'overlords' made me say that bigtree 15 hrs ago #75
It's amazing Dems every win anything Thew Tuesday #54
Understandable why this criticism resonates Deminpenn Tuesday #43
YES orangecrush Tuesday #47
AMEN, Tim. republianmushroom Tuesday #49
Oh no, the Posse is gonna go after Tim! luv2fly Tuesday #55
Uh oh! He's gonna get scolded by the cheerleaders! Orrex Tuesday #57
A few years ago, LPBBEAR Wednesday #60
PREACH!!!! ihaveaquestion Wednesday #63
Democrats have been out of power in Congress for a while now bigtree Wednesday #64
Hopium or Copium Aepps22 Wednesday #72
K&R spanone Wednesday #70
Democratic leadership listen to Tim. Break the Norms! Be Bold. Clouds Passing Wednesday #71
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