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Sympthsical

(10,931 posts)
31. So just going to ignore entirely what I said
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 10:21 AM
18 hrs ago

It's a shame. This Gillibrand stuff was a misogynistic bs campaign from Day One by people whose feathers were ruffled that she wasn't genuflecting appropriately at the altar of the party's power couple.

And that this is perpetuated uncritically in Democratic spaces out of intrapartisan motivation rather than an exploration on how a woman was attacked by our own after criticizing a man for bad behavior is depressing.

Expected, but depressing.

As I said, it should not have been that easy to get that narrative going, but it was.

Maybe it's because I'm a Millennial and I've never held various figures in the party in the same awe or deference. Their little campaign against Gillibrand didn't fly with me then. I don't accept it now.

But go with it. It's so helpful! Surely we're in such a place as a country and a party that we can take swipes at solid party members for no reason whatsoever. How useful.

But seriously, it really is something people don't see how it looks to continuously - for years - hold one woman singularly responsible for collective behavior on the topic of men behaving not so great. We're supposed to be the party of women, ffs. How does this one keep flying under the radar? It's like zombie shittery that just doesn't go away.

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Has Warren? Has Sanders? Has Booker? SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #1
i thought it was one picture samsingh 20 hrs ago #6
No SocialDemocrat61 20 hrs ago #7
And those accusations were absurd PatSeg 18 hrs ago #18
Hannity and Stone were only involved with the first accuser SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #25
"Franken is doing fine"? PatSeg 18 hrs ago #30
Is he broke and homeless? SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #33
It's not how he is doing that is the issue; it's that the electorate was denied one of the best senators ever. Amaryllis 18 hrs ago #41
First he could have run again but hasn't SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #43
Thank you!!! Eom Karma13612 12 hrs ago #89
It's not about him, it's about us. We are missing out. Pompoy 13 hrs ago #83
How? SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #85
That isn't the measure MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #112
Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #114
He regrets stepping down MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #116
I'm sure he does SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #117
No, I will not let it go. He did NOTHING wrong. Ferrets are Cool 17 hrs ago #44
Republicans, and some Democrats, have done far worse SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #46
It was a comedy skit..eom Karma13612 11 hrs ago #93
Yes the picture was SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #101
Interesting that he lives in NYC now. SunSeeker 13 hrs ago #79
He could have run for mayor SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #81
Gillibrand was just re-elected in 2024. Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #84
She flamed out running Karma13612 11 hrs ago #92
She got over one million more votes for Senator than the con artist did at the top of the ticket. Quiet Em 11 hrs ago #94
I'm in NYS Karma13612 11 hrs ago #96
If Schumer retires, AOC will run for his seat. Quiet Em 11 hrs ago #98
That's true SocialDemocrat61 10 hrs ago #102
She managed a photo op? MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #105
More than one SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #113
Where are the "eight others" now? MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #104
They probably have SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #110
That's the false narrative iemanja 8 hrs ago #118
Five Democratic Senators who urged Al to resign ran for President in 2020 DFW 19 hrs ago #11
Harris did get to be VP in 20 SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #13
Indeed she did DFW 19 hrs ago #14
But Gillibrand was the loudest and shriekiest Jilly_in_VA 18 hrs ago #37
Harris was not far behind. DFW 15 hrs ago #61
Whataboutism. Jilly_in_VA 14 hrs ago #65
She definitely took credit for it lame54 13 hrs ago #78
YES, she will MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #106
My senator in Oregon did to but he came Tree Lady 17 hrs ago #54
I'm not so sure he even intended to run for president DFW 15 hrs ago #59
I guess people just hoped he would Tree Lady 14 hrs ago #66
There was PLENTY of that DFW 14 hrs ago #70
Several Democratic Senators have since apologized to him for their statements urging him to resign. DFW 15 hrs ago #60
They were not the only ones. iemanja 8 hrs ago #121
Only ONE person caused Al Franken to quit. 31st Street Bridge 18 hrs ago #28
Oh, sure DFW 15 hrs ago #62
No, I don't; but a family member does 31st Street Bridge 14 hrs ago #64
So do I DFW 14 hrs ago #68
We need fighters, not people who are going to surrender when the going gets tough 31st Street Bridge 14 hrs ago #71
He was 66 with a deteriorating hip condition with over 40 Democratic Senators who were there to back him up DFW 14 hrs ago #74
Amy Klobuchar didn't even defend him. SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #76
It must have been awful for him. AloeVera 11 hrs ago #97
Schumer was one of two final insults DFW 11 hrs ago #99
I don't think that's fair SocialDemocrat61 13 hrs ago #75
Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #107
GREAT POINT MoseShrute 20 hrs ago #2
Thank you. She certainly led the charge and ginned-up others to follow. QueerDuck 20 hrs ago #3
Actually it was Schumer who led the charge SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #9
I'm aware of his role too. She was the face of it all... QueerDuck 19 hrs ago #10
The corporate media made her the face of it SocialDemocrat61 19 hrs ago #12
So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take. QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #24
No it's those who continue to attack her and only her SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #32
I will always defend him and stand up to the bullies who characterize his resignation as ... QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #38
Never said that his resignation was SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #40
So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives... QueerDuck 17 hrs ago #51
So every woman that accused him was a saboteur? SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #52
What about his apology for giving people reason to mistrust him? EdmondDantes_ 16 hrs ago #58
The damage had been done. Do do otherwise, even if justified, would have been to prolong an... QueerDuck 11 hrs ago #91
The root cause is still Franken then EdmondDantes_ 11 hrs ago #95
. MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #108
That is how I recall it PatSeg 18 hrs ago #21
You are correct. There was much more going on. I remember, too. QueerDuck 18 hrs ago #27
And to make matters even worse, PatSeg 18 hrs ago #35
Hear, hear. peppertree 18 hrs ago #39
Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct, PatSeg 16 hrs ago #55
Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer? delisen 16 hrs ago #57
Yes, he was on her bandwagon, as I've said. The damage was done, and had he not piled on, it would have... QueerDuck 12 hrs ago #90
I don, t believe I made the point you are attributing to me.nt delisen 11 hrs ago #100
K & R malaise 20 hrs ago #4
Good question samsingh 20 hrs ago #5
Post removed Post removed 19 hrs ago #8
No MustLoveBeagles 19 hrs ago #15
I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #16
My point is she was more concerned about taking down a political rival than protecting women. Chasstev365 18 hrs ago #17
But you're singling her out Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #19
Because she used a situation to eliminate Franken purely as a political rival: NOT COOL! Chasstev365 18 hrs ago #22
So just going to ignore entirely what I said Sympthsical 18 hrs ago #31
I didn't miss your point; I simply don't agree with you! Chasstev365 18 hrs ago #34
Where is the evidence of that? SocialDemocrat61 18 hrs ago #36
https://apnews.com/article/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-al-franken-resignation-a3735f0f78ed6a8949b34cbc82239023 Chasstev365 17 hrs ago #48
That article doesn't prove your accusation SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #49
"Eventually." She did NOT rush to judgement like she did with Franken. I just proved the point! Chasstev365 17 hrs ago #50
She and 38 other Senators took almost a month from the first accusation SocialDemocrat61 17 hrs ago #53
Political rival? karynnj 17 hrs ago #45
Politcal rival? Quiet Em 15 hrs ago #63
Don't confuse them with facts SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #67
I don't even understand where that logic comes from. Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #69
There is no logic in demonization SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #73
"Them"? MorbidButterflyTat 9 hrs ago #109
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 9 hrs ago #115
NEVER! Clouds Passing 18 hrs ago #20
WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER OR FORGET..... a kennedy 18 hrs ago #23
Look at all the whataboutism here Fullduplexxx 18 hrs ago #26
Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something TiberiusB 17 hrs ago #47
Here is Jane Meyer's story suegeo 16 hrs ago #56
Due process is a judicial standard SocialDemocrat61 14 hrs ago #72
You betcha... PCIntern 18 hrs ago #29
Who is your Senator? Quiet Em 17 hrs ago #42
As a Minnesotan . . . Scubamatt 13 hrs ago #77
Will you ever forgive Bernie Sanders? Jose Garcia 13 hrs ago #80
Will you ever forgive Kamala Harris? Jose Garcia 13 hrs ago #82
She was definitely the loudest. Kingofalldems 12 hrs ago #86
Thank you! Chasstev365 12 hrs ago #87
The women-blaming narrative requires putting the blame on her iemanja 8 hrs ago #120
Nice one!!!! I'll second that!!! Karma13612 12 hrs ago #88
It was such an OBVIOUS right wing smear MorbidButterflyTat 10 hrs ago #103
Ditto. I will never support Gillibrand in any way shape or form. I even called up her office and told her staffers that PatrickforB 9 hrs ago #111
Bernie too? Kamala? iemanja 8 hrs ago #119
Absolutely Al graycampervan 5 hrs ago #122
Gillibrand BGRD 1 hr ago #123
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