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118. So we should all be banned from using the words male and female except for the animal kingdom? Are you kidding?

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I am a 15-year-old girl. Let me show you the vile misogyny that confronts me on social media every day [View all] marble falls Monday OP

Social Media Has Made Society Worse Than It Was ProfessorGAC Monday #1

Indeed. And we raise our men terribly. marble falls Monday #2

That reminds me of a remark soldierant Monday #189

There is a cure for all these, but no one wants to do it...UNSUBSCRIBE to ALL of it! That is the CURE! Escurumbele Monday #24

Ok By Me ProfessorGAC Monday #57

Good idea but not realistic blubunyip Monday #70

Because we let them. Because there is no credible protest against this. Because this Scrivener7 Monday #136

What about having men police themselves? How many men call out other men for their hateful comments and threats? ihaveaquestion Monday #86

You used the word "male." Is that not derogatory, yet "female" is? Doodley Monday #109

You think you scored a big point there, don't you? Scrivener7 Monday #135

Using "male" as an adjective rather than a noun is appropriate. Here's a link spooky3 Monday #143

That's your response to a call for men to be responsible? WTF!?!?! ihaveaquestion Monday #177

I doubt there are many men on this forum who disagree that there are men who are disrespectful to women, and Doodley Monday #186

Worse by orders of magnitude. SKKY Monday #179

Why anyone still uses any Zuckerberg product is beyond me. No one needs that and they're Scrivener7 Monday #3

Quit FB years ago. Never went on Instagram. Ritabert Monday #7

Same here, and I'm a 78-year-old man with a wife and sisters. Email, and DU is the extent of my online activity. usaf-vet Monday #52

Same here. Ritabert Monday #88

Stop Greg_In_SF Monday #4

Good Point ProfessorGAC Monday #5

Any forum with inadequate moderation is quickly hijacked by men and boys... hunter Monday #60

Right blubunyip Monday #73

Then, at the very least, there needs to be a movement demanding adequate moderation. Scrivener7 Monday #80

Not sure this equates. Hope22 Monday #12

Post removed Post removed Monday #14

So, basically, kudzukimchi Monday #19

Really, dude? Welcome to DU. Scrivener7 Monday #21

I just knew Greg_In_SF Monday #23

Agree Mossfern Monday #41

Well said! csusan Monday #42

She's 15. All kids are on social media. Joinfortmill Monday #31

Again, it's Greg_In_SF Monday #35

Not quite. Joinfortmill Monday #39

Umm... Greg_In_SF Monday #40

That's Boomer logic Polybius Monday #63

Yes blubunyip Monday #75

It brought back the memory of then PM Golda Meir's response when men suggested she enact a curfew for women Attilatheblond Monday #127

Similar to get the red out Monday #128

But, it seems, there are only two available options: leave the source, or demand Scrivener7 Monday #83

I'm not going to pretend to have a solution, but this is not just about social media spaces. Ilikepurple Monday #144

I'm in no way dismissive of her concerns. And I've said elsewhere in the thread Scrivener7 Monday #149

The issue is that the abuse does not stop online. The piece was a plea for change not a request for personal advice Ilikepurple Monday #161

I'm not dismissing anything. I never said anything about the banning children idea being outlandish, in fact Scrivener7 Monday #163

I'm sorry. I apologize for mixing some of your comments with another member. Ilikepurple Monday #178

Have a nice night. Scrivener7 Monday #180

Boys will stop that behaviour when they find out it is not cool, when there is no one on social media, besides Escurumbele Monday #26

Victim blaming much? You're kidding, right? Joinfortmill Monday #33

Amazing to me how the victim is always held responsible because "we all know men can't help speaking ... marble falls Monday #58

This message was self-deleted by its author blubunyip Monday #76

Please explain how the post is "victim blaming." Doodley Monday #119

Telling girls to get off social media doesn't solve the problem and it's a bit like spooky3 Monday #130

Progressive Democrats don't develop lifelong issues with self-esteem and trust Scrivener7 Monday #138

Notice that I said it's "a bit like", not "exactly like." spooky3 Monday #142

Do you see anything being done that indicates the bad behavior is being discouraged? Scrivener7 Monday #145

When I first stopped using X and started using Threads, spooky3 Monday #146

So there are places these kids could go and be safe instead of instagram. I wish they would. Scrivener7 Monday #151

Instagram is linked to Threads, but she could just ignore Instagram spooky3 Monday #155

We could just tell kids all their parents are on instagram. That'll send them running away. Scrivener7 Monday #156

LOL! Nt spooky3 Monday #158

Women once needed escorts to enter taverns leftstreet Monday #27

Right because some men can't seem to control thenselves Joinfortmill Monday #34

Paint Greg_In_SF Monday #45

"Some men" is a wide brush? Wednesdays Monday #53

As wide a brush as "stay off the internet. Problem solved!"? Torchlight Monday #61

This centurys version of homegirl Monday #103

As one man, I didn't feel the brush came very close to painting me. Ilikepurple Monday #164

Or Greg_In_SF Monday #43

Instagram isn't CAUSING her problems leftstreet Monday #79

Your interlocutor has left the thread Prairie Gates Monday #92

So what do you do to protect your fifteen year old daughter from this right now? Scrivener7 Monday #106

I don't know leftstreet Monday #114

We do have that history. But I'm not seeing the will to apply it to social media. Scrivener7 Monday #129

I'm not sure you could make a ban on using instagram stick for a 15-year-old. MineralMan Monday #123

Yes. Your response is unsatisfactory because it's amazingly naive. "Calling out" these assaults has never done anything Scrivener7 Monday #131

Doing what i can.. MineralMan Monday #139

"the problem is undisciplined girls" blubunyip Monday #81

What do you suggest? Imagine you're this fifteen year old's mother. What do you do? Scrivener7 Monday #105

Come together with other mothers, fathers, daughters AND sons blubunyip Monday #116

I totally agree. There should be a major protest against this. But there isn't. I can't fathom why. But there isn't. Scrivener7 Monday #132

This isn't a woman. This is a child. And she is being abused. I'd forbid instagram in a heartbeat. Scrivener7 Monday #111

Well yes! leftstreet Monday #117

Absolutely. We only get better products when we demand better products. And sometimes Scrivener7 Monday #133

Stop johnp3907 Monday #108

She's not a woman. She's a child. And she's being abused. What would you do to stop that Scrivener7 Monday #112

Social media is a pretty damn big neighborhood Quiet Em Monday #122

iI's not just a matter of social media.. whathehell Monday #166

These repulsive little worms... GiqueCee Monday #6

"Suppose social media platforms required them to use their REAL names, and not some made-up handle." MichMan Monday #55

If women used their names they'd be seriously shit-stormed and doxxed. marble falls Monday #59

Good point... GiqueCee Monday #95

No... GiqueCee Monday #85

Sounds really serious Torchlight Monday #93

The military has always used 'girl'as a means of humilating men. milestogo Monday #8

Today's bright moment of clarity -- right here. Duncan Grant Monday #102

The juvenile males who own and run social media are intentionally responsible for this. Clouds Passing Monday #9

Let's not forget how Zuckerberg got his start. llmart Monday #13

He's a creepster Clouds Passing Monday #16

I don't think Zuck ever had a GF..... SergeStorms Monday #38

From Wiki... llmart Monday #66

Wow. SergeStorms Monday #152

You use the word "males," but female is an insult? Please explain. Doodley Monday #113

I didn't say or imply that female is an insult Clouds Passing Monday #159

Dehumanizing hatred at such a young age seems difficult to avoid in the 21 century Torchlight Monday #10

Yes, exactly. MineralMan Monday #22

Yes. It's victim blaming n/t Just_Vote_Dem Monday #49

But don't. Scrivener7 Monday #78

That is true in many, many cases. MineralMan Monday #90

Women, myself included, have spent lifetimes doing that. And yet here we are. Scrivener7 Monday #91

OK, but I'll continue to call out sexism and misogyny when I encounter it. MineralMan Monday #96

We all do that. You are not unique in that. It doesn't change anything about the abuse this child is facing. Scrivener7 Monday #98

And after all these years of doing it Bettie Monday #99

I just said the same downthread. I think we're all feeling that. Scrivener7 Monday #100

+1 leftstreet Monday #25

My sentiments exactly Mossfern Monday #48

Telling people to avoid social media is as absurd Torchlight Monday #50

Imagine she is your child. Are you going to feel like the solution is to wait until the culture Scrivener7 Monday #97

I share your concern about keeping youth safe from harmful online content. Torchlight Monday #101

I totally agree. But in the meantime, my kid would not be allowed to go near it. Scrivener7 Monday #104

My heart goes out to the girls and young women. Hope22 Monday #11

Even nice men often see it as a "woman's problem" blubunyip Monday #84

Are you saying no men joined in the fight to protect Roe V. Wade? Doodley Monday #121

Please..... Hope22 Monday #137

Do you think tens of millions of Democratic men don't stand up for women's rights? Come on! Please! Doodley Monday #141

I'm semi retired now. WinstonSmith4740 Monday #15

Did you also have the same restriction to the usage of "males" MichMan Monday #56

Absolutely!! WinstonSmith4740 Monday #82

So we should all be banned from using the words male and female except for the animal kingdom? Are you kidding? Doodley Monday #118

...... Diamond_Dog Monday #17

Amen Joinfortmill Monday #36

Please! I am a man who respects women. Every Thanksgiving dinner I make a speech that I want to see more women Doodley Monday #120

That's great. Quiet Em Monday #124

It says "men," not some men, not certain men, not a small percentage of men, but "men." Doodley Monday #125

She did not say all men either. Quiet Em Monday #134

Please! If I said "women are a problem," does that sound okay to you? I don't think that is acceptable. Doodley Monday #140

Let's stay in the context of the topic and discussion on this thread Quiet Em Monday #150

She isn't a "young girl." She's 15. Doodley Monday #157

She's 15. She is a girl, sir. Quiet Em Monday #160

She isn't a young girl. She takes offense at "female," so at least, let's not call her a "young girl." Doodley Monday #184

I have no idea what you are talking about. Quiet Em Monday #188

Yawn. The not-all-men argument---like we haven't heard that before. CrispyQ Monday #181

If I said "women are the problem," would you say that was acceptable? I would not ever say that as it is offensive and Doodley Monday #185

I didn't feel tarred. I'm not sure why you think this is about you. Ilikepurple Monday #175

Do you know what my race is? Where I was born? If I have a disability? What my religion is? No. Please don't stereotype Doodley Monday #187

I'm not sure I spoke to any of those things other than mentioning marginalization. Ilikepurple Monday #191

I don't have Instagram and have never used it but I have had Facebook Bev54 Monday #18

With very few exceptions, "Social" media are pure poison. usonian Monday #20

DU is my only social media... BigmanPigman Monday #28

This is horrifying. What kind of men are we raising? Joinfortmill Monday #29

Trump acolytes. Wednesdays Monday #51

The same ones we have always raised. 1WorldHope Monday #74

Ding, ding, ding, THAT IS THE POINT! Buddyzbuddy Monday #89

It makes me think of a book I read FullySupportDems Monday #30

That was my 2nd Tepper novel. CrispyQ Monday #182

Oh yes, I forgot about Grass! 😊 FullySupportDems 19 hrs ago #201

I was called a "cuck" yesterday on X by a woman defending Tuckers Mosby Monday #32

Wracking my puny "female brain" xuplate Monday #37

I completely understand why many women may want to have little to do with men. Sometimes it seems like men are a blight Fil1957 Monday #44

I get that entirely. I do not crowd women or children because I don't want to cause them fear that I am one ... marble falls Monday #69

I don't think I've ever seen you stray even into the neighborhood of mansplaining. Scrivener7 Monday #154

My mistake was thinking providing background was a "service". I've had to learn to wait to be asked for ... marble falls Yesterday #198

I have to say, the people here have taught me a lot too. I hadn't heard that three responses and out advice. I'm going Scrivener7 20 hrs ago #199

Skinner had good advice, too. When we on MIRT were getting too serious about how and why, he suggested ... marble falls 19 hrs ago #200

Social media is a great source of people, families to keep in touch. It's beautiful. BUT bluestarone Monday #46

Women Keep A Body Count???? Coolgoober Monday #47

Incels think this about women, and they're pissed because they aren't getting in on anyone's count at all. marble falls Monday #67

Facebook is cancer JoseBalow Monday #54

Thank you for sharing. Martin68 Monday #62

Even my husband gets the Proverbial Pissed Off when he hears how some men think of females. chouchou Monday #64

Boys jump at that shit in a nanosecond GenThePerservering Monday #65

Parents need to teach their boys Bettie Monday #68

We can't fix this online. It starts at home and in school. marble falls Monday #72

That's true Bettie Monday #87

But that means this fifteen year old has to endure this until the culture changes. Scrivener7 Monday #94

The kids need better tools GenThePerservering Monday #107

I'm speaking as someone whose only social media is DU, so I understand that I am Scrivener7 Monday #110

You're fighting the good fight here Sympthsical Monday #162

I wonder if people who grew up with this will be more careful with their own children. Scrivener7 Monday #165

The parents my age are much more aware of it Sympthsical Monday #169

I LOVE that idea of a flip phone for school! And I love to hear there is more healthy fear of this shit. Scrivener7 Monday #171

Absolutely, but problems will beget problems Sympthsical Monday #172

This is just the beginning. AI will do the rest. Scrivener7 Monday #173

The parents of your niece did the right thing. Quiet Em Monday #167

It's in the frigging algorithms. This is how Zuckerberg makes his money. Scrivener7 Monday #168

AI and filters aren't going to make it any better Sympthsical Monday #174

The net has warped human perceptions of reality jfz9580m Monday #71

I'll be watching for those posts about your epiphanies. It sounds interesting. Scrivener7 Monday #170

They are hard to explain jfz9580m Monday #192

Well it isn't anything that amazing jfz9580m Yesterday #193

My head is spinning a bit from this. I agree with you that the ones doing the work seem to be the ones who Scrivener7 Yesterday #195

And god forgive an action movie features a woman or person of color..only a white male can save the world BlueWaveNeverEnd Monday #77

Instagram and Facebook MorbidButterflyTat Monday #115

Screw social media popsdenver Monday #126

Easy to see why we've had no female presidents stollen Monday #147

I talked my daughter out of the Annapolis, her ex-husband is an Air Force Academy graduate, who was ... marble falls Yesterday #197

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Monday #148

OMG MorbidButterflyTat Monday #153

What's so funny? marble falls Yesterday #196

The beauty of posts like this drmeow Monday #176

Sad to see. REALLY sad to see! calimary Monday #183

Read a fascinating diagnosis of the problem. summer_in_TX Monday #190

I don't understand this maxrandb Yesterday #194