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In reply to the discussion: Ted Lieu: "allegations of Donald Trump raping children ... of Donald Trump threatening to kill children. " [View all]AZJonnie
(3,359 posts)78. Completely False? Okay, friend, I have a proposal for you
First, I hope you read the whole article I linked, not just my blurb
And then I invite you to imagine who you believe said the following (XXXXX in the text below), when they said this, whether they are someone in a position to know from whence they speak, and whether you see why they'd have motivation to downplay the situation?
"Jeffrey Epstein was the pimp and the john. He was his own No. 1 client," XXXXX told ABC News. "Nearly all of the exploitation and abuse of all of the women was intended to benefit only Jeffrey Epstein and Jeffrey Epstein's sexual desires."
XXXXX describes the enigmatic Epstein as living, essentially, two separate lives: one in which he was sexually abusing women and girls "on a daily basis," and another in which he associated with politicians, royalty, and titans of business, academia, and science.
"For the most part, those two worlds did not overlap. And where they overlapped, in the instances they overlapped, it seems to be a very small percentage," XXXXX said. "There were occasions where a select few of these men engaged in sexual acts with a select few of the girls that Jeffrey Epstein was exploiting or abusing -- primarily girls who were over the age of 18."
(snip) "What he was not is a person on the top of a sex trafficking operation that was sending women to powerful people around the world so that he could make money. It was not a business," XXXXX said. "And I think the few examples that we have, the known examples, have led to this belief that he must have been doing that with all of the women that he was abusing. That must have just been his gig. But that wasn't what he was doing on a daily basis. He's a sexual abuser and predator himself."
XXXXX describes the enigmatic Epstein as living, essentially, two separate lives: one in which he was sexually abusing women and girls "on a daily basis," and another in which he associated with politicians, royalty, and titans of business, academia, and science.
"For the most part, those two worlds did not overlap. And where they overlapped, in the instances they overlapped, it seems to be a very small percentage," XXXXX said. "There were occasions where a select few of these men engaged in sexual acts with a select few of the girls that Jeffrey Epstein was exploiting or abusing -- primarily girls who were over the age of 18."
(snip) "What he was not is a person on the top of a sex trafficking operation that was sending women to powerful people around the world so that he could make money. It was not a business," XXXXX said. "And I think the few examples that we have, the known examples, have led to this belief that he must have been doing that with all of the women that he was abusing. That must have just been his gig. But that wasn't what he was doing on a daily basis. He's a sexual abuser and predator himself."
Once you've made your supposition as to who XXXXX is, Here Is A Link to The Interview Quoted. Again, the whole thing is worth a read.
At least, can you see why I sometimes interject on this topic saying that the evidence for a "pedo cabal involving many girls/many men " is not as strong as people think?
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Ted Lieu: "allegations of Donald Trump raping children ... of Donald Trump threatening to kill children. " [View all]
sheshe2
Wednesday
OP
Did anyone here ever imagine that we would see the US sink to a level
Whyisthisstillclose
Wednesday
#1
Did anyone here ever imagine that the media and a large part of the country are okay with it
durablend
Wednesday
#9
I don't think they're okay with it, just don't believe it either because they're MAGA or can't accept such things happen
ChicagoTeamster
Wednesday
#12
Bezos' was strictly a business decision, as was Paramount/CBS, as was ABC.
ificandream
Yesterday
#116
Sink to? Sally Hemings might like a word. IMO the real hope was that we had finally risen above...
Ol Janx Spirit
Wednesday
#13
This kind of debauchery and cruelty are not new. All one needs is to remember about the Hellfire Club in England and
Texin
Wednesday
#21
It is a much more complicated discussion, but there is good evidence that it is the evil...
Ol Janx Spirit
Wednesday
#92
No, but I never expected to see a ruskie ASSet in the WH either, ruling like a mob boss.
SheltieLover
Wednesday
#33
My question is why did so many think we were living in a freaking Utopia?? (n/t)
OldBaldy1701E
Yesterday
#110
I think she leaves the Epstein files to other late-night commentators. I'd rather hear Jen Psaki and especially
generalbetrayus
Wednesday
#14
Maybe it makes her physically ill. This has that effect on some people. I'm one of them.
SheltieLover
Wednesday
#35
Demanding the extrajudicial murder of people over mundane emails to Epstein is not "the moderate, level-headed position"
AZJonnie
Wednesday
#55
"agents couldn't confirm that and found no other victims telling a similar story,"
Wiz Imp
Wednesday
#68
I don't care who said that. It's a fact that many victims have provided testimony that
Wiz Imp
Wednesday
#83
Are you this far into this discussion, saying mean things to me, NOT having looked into who said all that yet?
AZJonnie
Yesterday
#104
I've shown solid sources for my current working thesis, and you have shown nothing but personal insults and *opinion*
AZJonnie
21 hrs ago
#119
I ignore many, many Epstein posts I disagree with, but on THIS topic, yes I will often comment
AZJonnie
Wednesday
#57
Okay, well ya got me! I should have gone back and re-read it, I took your word for it
AZJonnie
Wednesday
#82
OH ABSOLUTELY!!! I'm saying I probably vaguely recalled seeing video of Ted saying "evidence" just days ago
AZJonnie
Yesterday
#102
So brilliant one, If the tips were anonymous then why is the name on all of them redacted?
Wiz Imp
Yesterday
#114
It's surprising to me how much control there actually is over the media right now.
hamsterjill
Wednesday
#31
WTG Rep. Lieu! For a story that was six months ago declared dead on arrival
Torchlight
Wednesday
#38
Woodward released new books in 2023 & 2024. He'll probably release another this year.
Wiz Imp
17 hrs ago
#121
the motherfucking child rapist POTUS needs to resign... but will Republicans pressure him?
LymphocyteLover
Wednesday
#85
Thank you, Ted Lieu, for stating loud and clear that in the files, Trump is accused of RAPING CHILDREN.
LaMouffette
Yesterday
#109