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LuckyCharms

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68. She was trapped in a box with a man who assaulted her.

Fri Feb 13, 2026, 02:00 PM

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If she had killed him for it, she would have been justified.

I've told my wife that if she is ever in a situation like that where she can't get away, her goal is not to hurt the perpetrator, her goal is to kill him. With that mindset, her goal is to fight like she is fighting for her life, and she is not to stop until the person is unconscious. If he dies during that process, so be it. You want her to stop her self-defense when she is unsure if he could reach into his waistband at pull out a gun?

Her goal is to eliminate the threat to her. How is that woman supposed to know that the man is not armed with a gun or a knife?

He's lucky she didn't kill him.

You are expecting her to make a split second decision not to try to kill him when she is literally trapped? Unable to run? No help at all possible? She presumably is not an armed officer of the law. She's a WOMAN TRAPPED IN A CLOSED BOX WITH A MAN WHO PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED HER.

Can you see a jury convicting her?

I can't.

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A man was harassing a woman in the elevator. See what she did.♥️ [View all] riversedge Yesterday OP

Good on her! 3catwoman3 Yesterday #1

Think? BidenRocks Yesterday #52

Sadly true. niyad Yesterday #96

Well, yes, there is that. 3catwoman3 Yesterday #97

It's all bdamomma 19 hrs ago #165

life can be challenging when you think with your dick. and so many of them do nt orleans 18 hrs ago #167

I had a biology professor in college that said something like that. WinstonSmith4740 14 hrs ago #190

She beat the crap out of him !!!!!!! Yahooooo Trueblue1968 12 hrs ago #191

Good LetMyPeopleVote Yesterday #2

Sorry, but from a legal standpoint, that's got to be excessive use of force. PeaceWave Yesterday #3

Nah...and he won't report it anyhow. MineralMan Yesterday #7

He was immobilized after the kick to his crotch. The knee to his head was overkill. PeaceWave Yesterday #9

How was she to know that? I would have been scared to death that he would attack again in that closed space. AnotherMother4Peace Yesterday #15

He never raised his head again after the kick to the crotch. He clearly was no longer a threat. PeaceWave Yesterday #32

What leads you to assert a momentarily lowered head removes all threat? Torchlight Yesterday #34

Are you really going to ask a sexual assault victim BidenRocks Yesterday #60

I included an excerpt from the post I responded to Torchlight Yesterday #61

Perhaps quotation marks might have avoided confusion. I knew niyad Yesterday #92

Bet you that those who are trying to give the assaulter protection are not female. efhmc Yesterday #102

Definitely. MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #115

You underestimate the danger she was in ninjanurse 22 hrs ago #133

Now is that clearly no longer a threat in your eyes or hers? usedtobedemgurl 3 hrs ago #214

Same as emptying a magazine RoseTrellis 4 hrs ago #205

Shooting someone is a bit more damaging than a groin kick Attilatheblond 4 hrs ago #207

Don't think he'll be pressing charges, but if he does, my money is on her. Joinfortmill Yesterday #17

Maybe a little overkill is what he needed. GaYellowDawg Yesterday #18

IMO if she stopped short of debilitating him until the doors opened, this story would have a different ending. Hope22 2 hrs ago #220

I am guessing that it must be difficult to be a woman within your circle of niyad Yesterday #27

Absolutely! SheltieLover Yesterday #49

What would Krusty Gnome have done?? BattleRow Yesterday #66

Pulled out her gun? niyad Yesterday #98

What man would touch Kristie Gnome? maxrandb 23 hrs ago #124

Well, there is at least one. Wednesdays 22 hrs ago #131

We can't count her plastic surgeon. :-) nt spooky3 17 hrs ago #175

By all reports: Corey Lewandowski ShazzieB 15 hrs ago #179

I hear she has had him pegged from the very beginning. MineralMan 22 min ago #223

Nominated for best reply of the century. Maybe Ilsa Yesterday #71

I am deeply honoured, thank you. My first reaction was unprintable. niyad Yesterday #87

+1 leftstreet Yesterday #108

+2 Permanut Yesterday #118

Great response niyad Brenda 22 hrs ago #138

Thank you. It took a bit to write calmly! niyad 22 hrs ago #140

It's been sad to see apologists here for decades. Brenda 22 hrs ago #142

I am absolutely not surprised, coming from that one Skittles 15 hrs ago #181

So disappointingly true. niyad 15 hrs ago #185

Bravo! BlueSpot 15 hrs ago #182

Thank you. niyad 15 hrs ago #186

The Asshole was groping a woman in an elevator. MineralMan Yesterday #69

I agree liberalgunwilltravel Yesterday #95

Some people respond as if it's not the real world people live in. MineralMan Yesterday #101

Thank you for mentioning training in self defense oberle 18 hrs ago #169

She made it quite clear after the 1st kacekwl Yesterday #80

Nobody is immobilized by one woman's kick to the groin synni Yesterday #88

No it wasn't and her defense was exactly as women are trained to do when being assaulted ms liberty Yesterday #120

Not from my viewpoint Sanity Claws Yesterday #10

The legal standard for self-defense allows individuals to use "reasonable, proportional force." PeaceWave Yesterday #14

You wholly ignore 'Reasonable Fear' Torchlight Yesterday #20

The fact that she was trapped & couldn't escape changed the situation, IMO. CrispyQ Yesterday #29

....... bluestarone Yesterday #38

And she reasoned that he needed a little more reason not to re-attack. MineralMan Yesterday #74

Your concern for the sexual predator is noted. chia Yesterday #119

if a guy touches me uninvited Skittles 15 hrs ago #183

Sorry, he had ample opportunity to act in an adult and civil manner Torchlight Yesterday #11

He put hands on her mcar Yesterday #22

He wasn't going to stop The Blue Flower Yesterday #26

That's right mcar 19 hrs ago #160

He put his hands on her TWICE Seinan Sensei Yesterday #45

She had every reason to believe he wouldn't stop mcar 19 hrs ago #161

Is there a legal limit on beating a potential rapist to the floor? I saw no blood, body parts were still attached irisblue Yesterday #23

Even if in a place with a "duty to flee" IbogaProject Yesterday #25

Not excessive at all Soul_of_Wit Yesterday #30

If that was done to my Daughter or my Wife Seinan Sensei Yesterday #50

Nope. She's got it on video. He was warned. thought crime Yesterday #33

LOL don't you ever watch scary movies? leftstreet Yesterday #40

Yeah. You're right. Too bad she wasn't wearing a stiletto, right? PeaceWave Yesterday #43

Sorry. Your post is just so tone deaf leftstreet Yesterday #48

Self-defense, not aggression. niyad Yesterday #51

This is the problem. Self defense isn't a free pass for unlimited aggression. PeaceWave Yesterday #57

What then is the precise point at which defense ends and aggression begins? Torchlight Yesterday #59

see post 27 niyad Yesterday #82

It's not a free pass for anything. Aristus Yesterday #93

Unlimited aggression? MontanaMama Yesterday #99

The problem is MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #117

Unlimited aggression would have been empting a full magazine on his self entitled ass. Attilatheblond 3 hrs ago #212

Ah, correct! leftstreet Yesterday #58

And I am so FUCKING PISSED at the misogynistic, patriarchal BS niyad Yesterday #109

Misogyny is Patriarchy's oxygen leftstreet Yesterday #110

Absolutely! SheltieLover Yesterday #67

Stiletto to the eyes face would be an effective response. irisblue Yesterday #84

There was a reason I used to wear 4-inch heels when I was in public. niyad 23 hrs ago #125

Stick him with a Hat Pin! BidenRocks 20 hrs ago #152

Very true. I don't wear hats, since my sunglasses are usually there if I niyad 20 hrs ago #156

Somehow I think that kick to the balls Hope22 4 hrs ago #208

There isn't a jury on this planet that would convict her. cloudbase Yesterday #42

He was lucky she didn't pull out a pistol. Nt spooky3 Yesterday #70

Sadly, you are overly optimistic about juries. I have seen too many niyad 22 hrs ago #126

Indeed. Some of the posts beggar belief. cloudbase 22 hrs ago #127

Sadly true! niyad 22 hrs ago #129

It absolutely is not obamanut2012 Yesterday #53

If she were a man... Dear_Prudence Yesterday #54

Killing him would have been excessive use of force Random Boomer Yesterday #56

And I hope she reported him to the police. Nt spooky3 Yesterday #72

He assaulted her, she moved away, he assaulted her again Justice 12 hrs ago #192

He put his hands on her. She had no idea what was next. Irish_Dem Yesterday #62

What legal standpoint? fujiyamasan Yesterday #65

Thank you for pointing that out. niyad 22 hrs ago #128

Not a problem fujiyamasan 22 hrs ago #145

I heard that some Japanese rail lines BidenRocks 20 hrs ago #157

While that is helpful to a degree, it does not address the problem niyad 7 hrs ago #197

This would be a good training video ! thought crime 18 hrs ago #171

She was trapped in a box with a man who assaulted her. LuckyCharms Yesterday #68

"If she had killed him for it, she would have been justified." - Sorry, but no, she would not have been justified. PeaceWave Yesterday #75

You're very wrong. LuckyCharms Yesterday #77

No. I'm right and no amount of being upset at me (for raising the point) or the legal system (for being what it is)... PeaceWave Yesterday #86

I think you're confusing rejections of your assertions with "being upset" Torchlight Yesterday #90

Snicker Brenda 22 hrs ago #139

Oh, I'm not upset at all. LuckyCharms Yesterday #100

She turned and pushed a button BidenRocks 19 hrs ago #158

See post 27. Keep digging that hole, dear heart. It is such a good look for you. niyad 22 hrs ago #130

Damn straight niyad. MontanaMama 3 hrs ago #213

I am angry, and disgusted. niyad 3 hrs ago #215

As we should be. MontanaMama 3 hrs ago #216

EXACTLY!!! niyad 1 hr ago #221

If you are in that situation, you have every reason to believe someone is going to try and rape you. FascismIsDeath 14 hrs ago #189

She was always at risk of him strangling her. Taller/ heavier Hope22 2 hrs ago #218

"Excessive" would have been another two or three kicks to his nuts. GoCubsGo Yesterday #76

Nope. MontanaMama Yesterday #91

+1 for the blame comment. - nt CrispyQ 19 hrs ago #159

She should've shouted "but the DOW is over fifty thousand" Shambala Yesterday #114

Snicker niyad 22 hrs ago #132

Public Service Notice ninjanurse 22 hrs ago #134

Not sure about this because she would surely have been in fear of her life. He assaulted her by PatrickforB 20 hrs ago #154

Well, if that had gone to trial and she was in the dock on assault charges, and I were on the jury... Jedi Guy 16 hrs ago #178

I don't think so. A man is bigger and stronger than a woman, so she would be justified in fearing that if she didn't tblue37 15 hrs ago #184

A women who was assaulted in a confined space she cannot readily retreat from can/should use all the force she can Attilatheblond 4 hrs ago #206

Golly, maybe if he had smiled more she wouldn't have felt the need to fiercely defend herself until she could escape Attilatheblond 4 hrs ago #210

Hope she left some lasting damage dalton99a Yesterday #4

And That's How You Do It! MineralMan Yesterday #5

She really dealt with that assaulter but hope she also called security and police to protect other less capable women. MLAA Yesterday #6

The fact that we are seeing the video... Soul_of_Wit Yesterday #36

I'm pretty sure a lot of elevators have security cameras in them. MineralMan Yesterday #78

I assumed it was security video Soul_of_Wit 4 hrs ago #209

Yes. They only look at them if there is an incident. MineralMan 3 hrs ago #211

That was the perfect place to put my last heart. 1WorldHope Yesterday #8

K&R! Torchlight Yesterday #12

Good for her! SheltieLover Yesterday #13

Whoa, don't know if this is real, but I'm gonna use her moves! Joinfortmill Yesterday #16

He (and Trump) need a dictionary that explain what "No!" means. Ping Tung Yesterday #19

From 2016, apparently woman is a Beijing TV host and actress. betsuni Yesterday #21

Thank you for this. I thought it looked a bit familiar. Still relevant. niyad 22 hrs ago #135

My first thought was AI slop. Thanks for the post. Monsieur_Grumpe 7 hrs ago #196

I wish more women/girls had more situational awareness. irisblue Yesterday #24

A friend asked me once why I do not use headphones when I am niyad Yesterday #39

Holy shit that was pretty badass! fujiyamasan Yesterday #28

Bravo! You go, girl! Vinca Yesterday #31

BRAVA!!! niyad Yesterday #37

I do not know whether this was staged (as I remember a similar video niyad Yesterday #35

Excessive force, Maj. Dude Yesterday #41

Well done! UpInArms Yesterday #44

This seems staged. However, IF this video teaches or inspires a woman to: flvegan Yesterday #46

What more do we know about this? I think it looks like... QueerDuck Yesterday #47

There is a (possibly apocryphal) story from many years ago in the London tube dickthegrouch Yesterday #55

She was in danger with no ability to flee until the door opened Ritabert Yesterday #63

And THAT, my dears, is how it is DONE!!!!! hamsterjill Yesterday #64

I celebrate her quick reactions--and good aim! hlthe2b Yesterday #73

Good for her. He has no business putting hands on her. She did excellent. Don't minimize. Srkdqltr Yesterday #79

Possibly fake video Tasmanian Devil Yesterday #81

Nope. That is a camera mounted in the ceiling of the elevator car. MineralMan Yesterday #104

well, i guess i could smile at the camera next time i'm in an elevator -- but i don't think it'll show up very good orleans 18 hrs ago #168

Looks fake to me. There's a lot of this stuff getting posted in the "reels" Liberal In Texas Yesterday #107

So.... MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #113

LOL! ShazzieB 15 hrs ago #180

Well done. It falls into the same category then as that bear in the forest question... PeaceWave Yesterday #116

Wut? Brenda 22 hrs ago #147

And the only rec for this post calling it AI slop is Brenda 22 hrs ago #143

Please ... Tasmanian Devil 20 hrs ago #153

This looks so fake Chicagogrl1 Yesterday #83

It's fake. They're both amateur actors. Made to be click-bait and passed all over social media. Liberal In Texas 22 hrs ago #149

Fake or not, if only something like that had happened to a convicted 34-count... the nelm 18 hrs ago #170

I can't believe that the guy thought that would work. mjvpi Yesterday #85

He got what's coming to him. bluescribbler Yesterday #89

She did a fine job. Swede Yesterday #94

should have kicked him once more when he was down moonshinegnomie Yesterday #103

It looks rehearsed. Omnipresent Yesterday #105

"She allowed him...." MorbidButterflyTat Yesterday #111

I never suggested she put herself in a corner. Omnipresent 11 hrs ago #194

And if he came at her again when her back was against the wall, she could have been trapped. ShazzieB 20 hrs ago #151

My point is that most people want to see who is lurking around behind them. Omnipresent 11 hrs ago #193

Convince me this isn't staged misanthrope Yesterday #106

Staged or scripted Tasmanian Devil Yesterday #112

I don't care if it's staged or not. Dem_in_Nebr. 23 hrs ago #121

Yeah, even if it was staged or faked, I think it was informative. ShazzieB 15 hrs ago #187

And THAT is how it's done. Javaman 23 hrs ago #122

If i am alone on an elevator and a MineralMan 23 hrs ago #123

Used to be a tip of the Fedora. BidenRocks 18 hrs ago #173

Well, don't expect a tip of the MAGA cap. MineralMan 6 hrs ago #200

I've watched the video a couple of times and IMO no jury would convict her LogDog75 22 hrs ago #136

FAFO Timewas 22 hrs ago #137

I also agree that no jury would convict her. HeartsCanHope 22 hrs ago #141

She was in an enclosed space with someone making unwanted advances, with no way to know how far he was going DFW 22 hrs ago #146

Right on. Tactical Peek 22 hrs ago #144

Not been Rebl2 22 hrs ago #148

Same here. And I did not get on an elevator if there was a lone man there. niyad 21 hrs ago #150

Think back to 2016 canetoad 20 hrs ago #155

That's about how old this staged video is. Hassin Bin Sober 19 hrs ago #162

Really? canetoad 19 hrs ago #163

I'll have to remember that move! ShazzieB 15 hrs ago #188

Can you just imagine the hysteria had she done so? niyad 3 hrs ago #217

Women bdamomma 19 hrs ago #164

And boy will it be tough in our new burkas! Nt Hope22 2 hrs ago #219

If real, she did exactly the right thing. chowmama 19 hrs ago #166

'Bought 9-10 years ago, my husband broke up a dude from hitting the dude's girlfriend. chouchou 18 hrs ago #172

She should have nailed him even more. Make him a eunuch. BigmanPigman 17 hrs ago #174

Good for her! ABC123Easy 17 hrs ago #176

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excellent job. pansypoo53219 10 hrs ago #195

Busting his nuts! Smart move. ProudMNDemocrat 7 hrs ago #198

Violence is good as long as we agree with the outcome AZLD4Candidate 6 hrs ago #199

Good for Her!! She walloped an Epstein Jr. !! It appears she is trained blue-wave 6 hrs ago #201

ouch... myohmy2 5 hrs ago #202

Just make sure you hurt them bad enough they can't follow you. Linda ladeewolf 5 hrs ago #203

That looked super choreographed LoveSucky 5 hrs ago #204

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