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pat_k

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46. The fact that an order to RESPECT EXISTING LAW is necessary is perhaps the most shameful thing about all this.

Reply to In It to Win It (Original post)

Sat Jan 17, 2026, 07:34 PM

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There is nothing in this order that isn't essentially an order to STOP VIOLATING THE LAW.

Arresting, pepper spraying, shooting rubber bullets at persons who are engaging in peaceful and unobstructive protest activity, is a violation of their civil rights.

And violations of civil rights "under color of law" are prosecutable crimes.

This feels akin to issuing a TRO against premediated murder or assault and battery. Should be completely unnecessary because there are already laws prohibiting the actions.

And if some higher court overturns this order, what that court will be saying is "We declare that ICE be given free reign to violate civil rights under color of law."

3. Covered Federal Agents are hereby enjoined from:

a. Retaliating against persons who are engaging in peaceful and unobstructive protest activity, including observing the activities of Operation Metro Surge.

b. Arresting or detaining persons who are engaging in peaceful and unobstructive protest activity, including observing the activities of Operation Metro Surge, in retaliation for their protected conduct and absent a showing of probable cause or reasonable suspicion that the person has committed a crime or is obstructing or interfering with the activities of Covered Federal Officers.

c. Using pepper-spray or similar nonlethal munitions and crowd dispersal tools against persons who are engaging in peaceful and unobstructive protest activity, including observing the activities of Operation Metro Surge, in retaliation for their protected conduct.

d. Stopping or detaining drivers and passengers in vehicles where there is no reasonable articulable suspicion that they are forcibly obstructing or interfering with Covered Federal Agents, or otherwise violating 18 U.S.C.§ 111. The act of safely following Covered Federal Agents at an appropriate distance does not, by itself, create reasonable suspicion to justify a vehicle stop.

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BREAKING: Judge enters TRO blocking feds from interfering with or arresting peaceful protesters in Minnesota. [View all] In It to Win It Friday OP

#4 JustAnotherGen Friday #1

No reasonable canetoad Friday #5

Jabba-the-Trump's goons will just ignore it peppertree Saturday #42

Shouldn't this be automatic? chicoescuela Friday #2

Not confident this will do anything SSJVegeta Friday #3

If Walz calls out the NG Trump will immediately federalize it, Ocelot II Friday #7

From what I've researched, state police CAN arrest federal officers crimycarny Friday #11

If ICE is executing an immigration arrest, it would be almost impossible Ocelot II Friday #12

It appears no more than 1% of ICE's time is being spent on actually making immigration arrests Wiz Imp Friday #18

Walz did cal out the national guard already, right? SSJVegeta Friday #19

I believe he ordered them to stand ready but didn't acually call them. Amaryllis Friday #21

Got it. Thanks! SSJVegeta Friday #22

Minessota rso Friday #26

So perhaps he can use these rulings to enforce the law with the NG SSJVegeta Saturday #38

If a Dem wins the WH in 2028, ICE officers could be charged Kaleva Saturday #30

Good. sheshe2 Friday #4

Link to this excellent and thorough order: Ocelot II Friday #6

Thanks for sharing. yellow dahlia Friday #27

should we start taking bets on whether this order will be ignored? drray23 Friday #8

It may be. But it's a step in the right direction mzmolly Friday #9

+1 progressoid Friday #16

And its a federal judge Boo1 Friday #20

Just maybe this judge will bring in the entire border czar and that team ... turbinetree Friday #10

This is very important. mysteryowl Friday #13

Kicked and recommended Uncle Joe Friday #14

While this is great news angrychair Friday #15

ICE arresting peaceful protester in Minnesota today red dog 1 Friday #17

Meaningless. cab67 Friday #23

Meaningless if nobody will enforce it. Maybe a lawyer can clarify. Bluetus Friday #25

Yes - they should. cab67 Saturday #40

ICE dont give a shit. What the fuck is TRO anyway? BradBo Friday #24

TRO is a Temporary Restricting Order Justice matters. Saturday #31

Thanks, I probably should have figured that out. BradBo Saturday #33

'Turning'? OldBaldy1701E Saturday #34

Restraining Cirsium Saturday #43

Thanks for the precision. Justice matters. Saturday #44

Minneapolis judge bars DHS agents from arresting peaceful protesters LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #28

and the consequences when these are all ignored? quakerboy Saturday #29

It's a start.... democrank Saturday #32

So, when I am laying on the ground after being attacked by ICE goons... OldBaldy1701E Saturday #35

I certainly won't be surprised when ICE ignores this Temporary Restraining Order democrank Saturday #37

The question now is Javaman Saturday #36

Issuing a TRO is one thing dlk Saturday #39

Does this judge have the power to order the ICE officer that arrested anybody for peaceful protest into bluestarone Saturday #41

It should be more than apparent by now popsdenver Saturday #45

The fact that an order to RESPECT EXISTING LAW is necessary is perhaps the most shameful thing about all this. pat_k Saturday #46