General Discussion

(Although I believe he used a similar word choice to describe the second video.) And thanks for the addition in the post, for people who don't watch the video, of the rules that ICE is supposed to be following - rather than shooting - but didn't.

Personally, I don't think the shooting was justified at all. But it does make it more complex legally. Part of my arguments against self-defense would be (1) if he had time to casually shift the cell phone to his left hand, rather than just dropping it, he was concentrating on documenting - not saving his life (or anyone else's) - it's illegal in many states to drive with a cell phone in hand - I'd think it was even more important to avoid using a cell phone while pointing a loaded gun (2) he put himself at risk by walking in front of a moving vehicle - it was moving backwards, but it takes a fraction of a second to change directions and (3) a driverless moving vehicle is way more dangerous than one with a driver - even if it had been pointing at him, rather than angling way. By shooting the driver of a car he was creating an even more significant risk to both himself and the public than the driver posed.