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In reply to the discussion: Don't Defund ICE [View all]

Ms. Toad

(38,344 posts)
11. Defund meaning anything other than take their all money away
Wed Jan 14, 2026, 01:26 AM
Yesterday

was the lie we told ourselves (and tried to tell others) when the right picked up on the fact that many of the people who initiated the phrase "defund the police" meant precisely that - take all their money away.

When we say defund ICE - it means literally that - take all their money away. Once you take their money away, they no longer exist. I have no problem at all with that (unlike the "defund" the police - which most of us never meant literally and we had to twist ourselves into pretzels to try to explain away).

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Don't Defund ICE [View all] angrychair Tuesday OP
I prefer "Defenestrate ICE" myself... regnaD kciN Tuesday #1
I agree, MarineCombatEngineer Tuesday #2
A lot of us have concerns about that term. spooky3 Tuesday #4
It's already emasculated. stage left Yesterday #9
The smart people in Portland have said this for years. Klarkashton Tuesday #3
DURec leftstreet Tuesday #5
Seconded... ABOLISH IT! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Tuesday #7
I prefer SEND ICE TO HELL. usonian Tuesday #6
Have to get rid of the christofascist regime first. Otherwise... Thomas Hurt Tuesday #8
Reframe Everything they say stillspkg Yesterday #10
Defund meaning anything other than take their all money away Ms. Toad Yesterday #11
Ummm, "Crack the Ice" Intractable Yesterday #12
So who would handle enforcing immigration laws? n/t Wanderlust988 Yesterday #13
Who handled them before ICE was established in 2003? WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #15
INS which also was law enforcement too. n/t Wanderlust988 Yesterday #16
don't I know it WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #17
Any specific practical solutions/alternatives you propose? Torchlight Yesterday #21
Nobody in the interim angrychair Yesterday #18
That's ludicrous that no one is there to enforce immigration laws. It's not feasible and very stupid. Wanderlust988 Yesterday #19
a kinder, gentler deportation process, perhaps? WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #20
We also bear some responsibility as GW Bush wanted to work with Dems on reform Wanderlust988 Yesterday #22
. WhiskeyGrinder Yesterday #14
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