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Fiendish Thingy

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23. The mechanisms are in the constitution
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 12:56 PM
Monday

You know how impeachment works, and yes it would take some time, but not as much time as Trump’s or Clinton’s previous impeachments. It probably could be done within 30-45 days under the extreme circumstances described above, if not quicker. Remember, impeachment is not a legal proceeding, and Trump’s typical delay tactics would not affect a truly determined congress.

If an order to invade was imminent, the 25th amendment might need to be used to forestall or countermand such an order. From Wikipedia:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department [sic][note 2][7] or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.


So, my reading of that section is the VP and majority of the cabinet can buy Congress at least 21 days to act. If the US were facing the cataclysmic consequences described in the OP, I think the motivation and momentum would be there. It’s very likely there would be some significant Sabre-rattling by the EU, Canada, Japan and others, both publicly and behind the scenes- for example, threats to sell off US treasury bonds, crashing the dollar, which would give Trump and congress advance notice of the conflagration that would follow an invasion of Greenland.

PS- I know how important word-parsing is to you, but I couldn’t find the phrase “immediately impeach and remove” in any of my posts in this thread.

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"The first domino to fall is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization itself" kentuck Monday #1
Not just Putin but blue-wave Monday #20
For the love of God . . . Scubamatt Monday #58
there are but they have proven themselves to be cowards. nt Javaman Tuesday #74
There are few. if any of those old Republicans alive today. The Nazi salute is the norm with this batch. peacebuzzard Tuesday #80
I fully expect china to invade Taiwan at that point. Javaman Tuesday #73
I've been screaming from the rooftops... GiqueCee Monday #66
Good analysis. Horrifying that this is who we are now. Every once in a while, the magnitude of that Scrivener7 Monday #2
All true, and why I said yesterday Trump would be impeached and removed- by Republicans Fiendish Thingy Monday #3
It's nice to imagine that angrychair Monday #13
That is clearly inaccurate Fiendish Thingy Monday #15
You have a lot more faith angrychair Monday #22
sadly, agreed Cosmocat Monday #30
if this comes to fruition, I see various states calling up their national guard against ICE Javaman Tuesday #75
I take no joy in agreeing this is the likely way it will play out Cosmocat Monday #29
What is the mechanism? dpibel Monday #17
The mechanisms are in the constitution Fiendish Thingy Monday #23
Yes. I gave a quick summary of the 25th dpibel Monday #27
I just reread all my comments in this thread, and I don't find the word "immediately" anywhere Fiendish Thingy Monday #38
I guess you missed my edit dpibel Monday #41
You should contact the major book publishers Fiendish Thingy Monday #48
LOL dpibel Monday #49
I guess I should be flattered with all your attention Fiendish Thingy Monday #50
It's funny when nitpicker becomes nitpickee Qutzupalotl Monday #59
Think the JFK mechanism Joinfortmill Monday #54
Doubtful Cosmocat Monday #25
Somewhere Lindsey Graham just *eed in his pants.... Jack Valentino Monday #64
We know what would happen to Piggy Jr' Coldwater Monday #4
It sickens me to my core to know that piece of shit believes he will one day be President... Moostache Monday #34
Heck, we've ALREADY had way more of that family than we could ever have wanted. calimary Tuesday #67
Fact of life Timewas Monday #5
None of this is going to happen. Glaisne Monday #6
It's not my analysis. I know the US has a long-standing treaty regarding the military base Ocelot II Monday #7
It's the worst case scenario, so it is a useful warning thought crime Monday #31
The U.S. has ONE base only. Breaking the NATO treaty will be an unlawful order to the U.S. Military. The NATO Treaty is ancianita Monday #8
i hadn't thought about it this way MadameButterfly Monday #33
But the US military has. ancianita Monday #40
Tim Kaine was similarly confident MadameButterfly Monday #45
Cool. What Congress thinks or votes on adds validation for a decision that is the U.S. Military's alone; ancianita Monday #46
As Trump has shown in just the past week, treaties can be torn up or ignored. Nt Fiendish Thingy Monday #16
We cannot afford this. bluescribbler Monday #9
The people of Greenland&Canada should launch a class-action lawsuit against the US for tRumps terror campaign against us Fords Crackpipe Monday #10
And Vladimir Putin will have gotten everything he wants, and he won't even have had to leave the building. Aristus Monday #11
Every so often, I think of Susan Sarandon Ruby the Liberal Monday #65
she is and will always be a fucking halfwit. nt Javaman Tuesday #76
A very clear, concise, and I believe correct accessment. Thank you Ocelot II flashman13 Monday #12
See the first word? It's IF. That makes the piece a total hypothetical. Not an analysis. The fact that it's on a social ancianita Monday #44
Don't be trying to school me. I suppose you think the world will thank us for for attacking an ally. flashman13 Monday #60
Pfffft school you? about a hypothetical not being logical? Believe what you want. ancianita Monday #62
I'm not predicting anything; don't give me credit or blame for this piece. Ocelot II Tuesday #71
Yep, that's Putin's plan that Trump is carrying out. Break up NATO and destroy the US economy from within. Fozzledick Monday #14
We should not be taking any of this lightly angrychair Monday #18
As someone said on another forum. . . Stargleamer Monday #19
I have always thought something drastic would have to happen to make people wake up. Katinfl Monday #21
Obviously this is a worst-case scenario, and all things that COULD be done by the EU and other NATO members. Ol Janx Spirit Monday #24
Good points about Europe's response but MadameButterfly Monday #43
Well, just like the "hold my beer" guy...he's thinking something.... Ol Janx Spirit Monday #52
I don't think anything will disavow him because of his mental illness MadameButterfly Monday #57
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I don't know Cosmocat Monday #28
Static analysis. bucolic_frolic Monday #32
I will finish your essay: ret5hd Monday #35
Yep, mission accomplished. This is the real goal, not Greenland. Irish_Dem Monday #37
The other thing that could happen is that there is little or no reaction. Irish_Dem Monday #36
My crystal ball is foggy. BarbD Monday #39
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Monday #42
Britian has just said in one of this a.m.'s bulletins on DU that they would put troops in Greenland now. If true, SWBTATTReg Monday #47
This sums it up CousinIT Monday #51
I don't think NATO dissolves, just the US's part in it. Javaman Tuesday #77
This explains a lot: "Ending the American Dream by 2029?" CousinIT Tuesday #78
thanks, I'll check it out. I read Toms Dispatch from time to time. :) nt Javaman Tuesday #79
The Russians own Trump. Joinfortmill Monday #53
I would like to see NATO Members OhioTim Monday #55
Is anyone telling this to Stephen Miller and tRump? joanbarnes Monday #56
Sounds to me like Corporate America better get their shit together and reign in their puppet.nt Trueblue Texan Monday #61
Chilling that the donor class hasn't gotten their shit together to stop him Ruby the Liberal Monday #63
Yeah, we'd become Figarosmom Tuesday #68
"Oh--everything I touch gets ruined." That's trump's life. C Moon Tuesday #69
The epitome of..... MarcoZandrini Tuesday #70
not to mention all the private companies that do business in Europe Javaman Tuesday #72
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