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36. It is the reality of how things work in congress

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Schumer and Jeffries not interested in cutting ICE Funding..... [View all] Bread and Circuses Jan 8 OP

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. I won't get fooled again. dem4decades Jan 8 #1

Except neither is the new boss SocialDemocrat61 Jan 8 #9

you were just lied to, but whatever bigtree Jan 8 #47

Tell it to this woman orangecrush Jan 8 #54

I'd love to see her appointed Speaker mr715 Friday #118

Good idea orangecrush Friday #125

Thank you. betsuni Friday #74

If this is true we need new Democratic leaders in congress ! kimbutgar Jan 8 #2

Agree 👍 anciano Jan 8 #4

Post removed Post removed Jan 8 #3

They're expecting outrage at Trump to do so anyway... regnaD kciN Jan 8 #6

100% Truth. Bread and Circuses Jan 8 #16

I am just not that excited about either mikewv Jan 8 #5

Stuff like this is good fodder for the "controlled opposition" and bothsiderism crowds. RockRaven Jan 8 #7

Why are they referred to as "leadership"? Intractable Jan 8 #8

Precisely - what is this "leadership" mentioned in the preceding article? hatrack Jan 8 #11

Futher edits with details on the "leadership" discussed here . . . hatrack Jan 8 #13

We can always count on AOC to show leadership regardless of where she actually is in the pack. Intractable Jan 8 #17

What bullshit framing. And neither Schumer nor Jeffries have the power to do so, in the minority. W_HAMILTON Jan 8 #10

It should be the official position of the Democratic party, and enunciated as such by Jeffries and Schumer, Intractable Jan 8 #14

Yes it should be but it's not yet SocialDemocrat61 Jan 8 #25

That is absolutely ridiculous. Scrivener7 Jan 8 #26

It is absolutely reality SocialDemocrat61 Jan 8 #29

Absolutely ridiculous. Scrivener7 Jan 8 #31

Absolutely reality SocialDemocrat61 Jan 8 #32

Maybe in the world of people who need to insist that Democrats are useless wimps Scrivener7 Jan 8 #34

It is the reality of how things work in congress SocialDemocrat61 Jan 8 #36

It is not always being a wimp to not show your cards at the begining of the hand Attilatheblond Friday #123

Telling people that, when Democrats are in power, Scrivener7 Friday #126

I thought they were elected to represent their constituents. Gore1FL Friday #80

Apparently so SocialDemocrat61 Friday #88

No. It's weird made-up nonsense. Scrivener7 Friday #95

Leadership should, perhaps maybe, I don't know - lead? mr715 Friday #103

Nancy Pelosi was bashed for supposedly personally holding up impeachment and oh how horrible betsuni Friday #82

Trump is the disease. Gore1FL Friday #93

I disagree with this assessment. mr715 Friday #110

ICE should be disbanded orangecrush Jan 8 #38

The question that was asked was specifically whether they'd rein in ICE when they regain the majority. Scrivener7 Jan 8 #18

Your framing is the one one in error. Did you even bother to read the first 2 paragraphs of the article? Celerity Jan 8 #20

The posse always shows up orangecrush Jan 8 #57

You mean the ones that defend bullshit attacks on Democrats on a Democratic-supporting website? W_HAMILTON Friday #75

Meaning the reality based community who don't gullibly fall for conspiracy theories and disinformation. betsuni Friday #90

The OP's title -- different from the article's -- implies otherwise. W_HAMILTON Friday #72

46 Democrats voted for the Laiken Riley act LuvLoogie Jan 8 #24

+1 leftstreet Jan 8 #42

And none of that would have prevented what happened, but you know what would have? W_HAMILTON Friday #77

The 12 votes would be enough to have filibustered the bill LuvLoogie Friday #94

IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER. VOTERS VOTED IN FASCISTS. FASCISTS DON'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT SENATE VOTES. W_HAMILTON Friday #99

You tell the targets of this racist regime that "IT DOESN"T FUCKING MATTER" LuvLoogie Friday #131

I agree it's due to bullshit framing, but the framing being done by Schumer and Jeffries crimycarny Jan 8 #27

"End up like a dog that's been beat too much Jack Valentino Jan 8 #48

Perfect! crimycarny Jan 8 #56

I think the writing is already on that wall. We need new dogs. And we have a really good bench, Scrivener7 Jan 8 #63

They have the power to say they oppose funding ICE orangecrush Jan 8 #37

Did they fucking say they support it either? Hell no they didn't. W_HAMILTON Jan 8 #68

No they didn't say anything orangecrush Jan 8 #69

And yet people like you assume that means the worst. W_HAMILTON Friday #76

The law of automatically assuming the worst evil intentions, mocking realty of minorities and not enough votes. betsuni Friday #83

It's too bad. Words have power. Autumn Friday #97

... orangecrush Friday #98

Please see my expanded thoughts Bread and Circuses Jan 8 #51

Did you see the other comments today made by Jeffries and Schumer? They have done that. W_HAMILTON Friday #78

This message was self-deleted by its author SSJVegeta Jan 8 #12

Jesus H. Christ. "Asked about whether Democrats would rein in ICE spending Scrivener7 Jan 8 #15

That would have been the SMART response Bread and Circuses Jan 8 #19

I just don't get it. Just friggin' say, "Yes." How hard is that? WHY in God's name wouldn't they? Scrivener7 Jan 8 #22

It is also the easy response. nt mr715 Friday #121

They think that by being soft, they can't be accused of being soft BeyondGeography Friday #108

It's crazy. And what people here are doing is insisting on weakness from our leaders. Scrivener7 Friday #111

My guess is they are trying to avoid the "Defund the police" label. Raven123 Jan 8 #21

When you have no ongoing platform and no spokespersons pounding the table every day ... usonian Jan 8 #46

Exactly crimycarny Friday #106

Same geniuses (Jeffries and Schumer) who wouldn't endorse Mandami out of the same political cowardness crimycarny Jan 8 #58

I agree with your last statement Raven123 Friday #91

They are going to have to figure out a way to combat the media environment because that will only get worse. crimycarny Friday #101

Then their names... purr-rat beauty Jan 8 #23

Declined to say edhopper Jan 8 #28

Declined to say is bad enough. Scrivener7 Jan 8 #33

It is bad edhopper Jan 8 #35

They didn't say they weren't interested in cutting ICE funding. There's no official position yet. betsuni Jan 8 #30

Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Jan 8 #43

And making promises they can't get enough votes for results in accusations that Democrats broke their promises or lied. betsuni Jan 8 #65

Post removed Post removed Jan 8 #66

No idea SocialDemocrat61 Jan 8 #70

Why do they need to make comments on this ? JI7 Jan 8 #39

Because ICE just murdered a woman in cold blood on an American street while she was doing the school run Scrivener7 Jan 8 #50

The reality is those disgusted by this already oppose Republicans JI7 Friday #73

Messaging crimycarny Jan 8 #59

Overwhelming? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 8 #71

Considering a 3 way race crimycarny Friday #81

What's a milquetoast Dem? SocialDemocrat61 Friday #87

A milquetoast Dem is like a ConservaDem but with half the calories. betsuni Friday #89

Schumer is one crimycarny Friday #104

And the polling data SocialDemocrat61 Friday #120

?? crimycarny Friday #122

You claimed SocialDemocrat61 Friday #127

Polling data? Didn't Mandami win the primary? crimycarny Friday #128

Ok SocialDemocrat61 Friday #129

I believe there was a vote to condemn socialism after Mayor Mamdani won and Autumn Friday #109

Lets be real mr715 Friday #113

Sadly, the posse has arrived. This thread will now be derailed by sea lioning, straw-manning Scrivener7 Jan 8 #40

The apologies for fecklessness are starting to be just plain suspicious Sympthsical Jan 8 #55

Exactly. For a long time the argument was, "We're not in power!1!" Scrivener7 Jan 8 #60

Not having power provides us the cover to take bold, popular, moral positions. mr715 Friday #115

100% And it's so undermining to enthusiasm Sympthsical Friday #119

Yes--and to discuss frustration with tactics and messaging is not "bashing" Dems crimycarny Friday #116

Agree. And advocating for new leadership is not bashing either. Sympthsical Friday #117

I don't know. I'm pretty privileged, and my stomach hurts all the time these days. Scrivener7 Friday #130

WTAF? MorbidButterflyTat Jan 8 #41

Agree and JustAnotherGen Jan 8 #45

Let's get the ACA Subsidies JustAnotherGen Jan 8 #44

ICE is OVER-FUNDED, for christ sake, courtesy of the "Big UGLY Bill"--- Jack Valentino Jan 8 #49

the caucus meets tomorrow bigtree Jan 8 #52

Post removed Post removed Jan 8 #53

that's complete bullshit bigtree Jan 8 #61

Calm down, son. I'm not "coming" at anybody here--- Jack Valentino Jan 8 #62

he is leading, but he sets his own priorities bigtree Jan 8 #64

Hakeem Jeffries is Leading... Sorry Cha Friday #85

You want me to go against I.C.E? Shiiiiiit. DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 8 #67

No wonder I don't spend much time here. Putting words in the mouth of what the Democratic leaders didn't say. lostincalifornia Friday #79

You're right about the BS, but DFW Friday #84

On threads like these I Cha Friday #86

They need to step aside then JCMach1 Friday #92

Simple, right? mr715 Friday #107

A very wise man said. "There comes a time when silence is betrayal." Autumn Friday #112

Yeah. I see. Autumn Friday #96

They are afraid they will be called "anti-immigration reform". kentuck Friday #100

"They are afraid" mr715 Friday #102

Mayor Mamdani reaffirmed NYC's sanctuary city status mr715 Friday #105

I am for full defundind AND abolishing ICE. Dawson Leery Friday #114

Some Dem leadership is too busy confirming Trump's judges it seems. flvegan Friday #124