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AverageOldGuy

(3,412 posts) Thu Jan 8, 2026, 11:50 AM Jan 8

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Very troubling phone call from daughter [View all]

She is a DC attorney with a big white-shoe law firm. She is a life-long, active, committed Democrat who has worked as a legal observer at elections, riots, demonstrations and the like.

Renee Nicole Good was a volunteer legal observer.

Now that ICE has been declared by Trump, Miller, and Noem to be a law unto itself, she is (1) worried about when she will be shot while working as a legal observer; (2) in tears about the future of this country; and (3) losing sleep over the world her two nieces (her brother's daughters) will inherit.

She has determined what is needed to become a long-term, legal resident of England, Ireland, or Scotland along with Canada, Switzerland (her great-grandparents), and Germany (where she was born). She also has a lead on a couple of jobs in Great Britain as well as leads on homes for sale there.

I told her that what little bit of an estate my wife and I have will be split between her and her brother with some going to the granddaughters and she can have her share anytime she wants to leave. In fact, I will buy from her her Capitol Hill residence so she pockets that profit.

Ms. Average Old Guy and I have renewed our passports and been in contact with the Swiss embassy(my grandparents).

My community in Northern Virginia has a BIG minority population -- Hispanic, Muslim, and Asian. We have seen almost no ICE activity, an occasional arrest is all. However, we (whom I will not define) have been meeting quietly -- what can we legally do in the face of ICE or NG; how to do it; establishing contact with local community leaders and faith leaders. If they show up here WE WILL NOT COMPLY.

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Very troubling phone call from daughter [View all] AverageOldGuy Jan 8 OP

I just had the same conversation last night with a friend. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #1

I read where the IRS popsdenver Jan 8 #9

The rich have it all figured out by now. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #12

of course climate change is real rampartd Jan 8 #32

Melting the ice will reveal priceless resources the billionaires want. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #33

if they wanted to save money they would put the data centers on the moon rampartd Jan 8 #34

Consumers and taxpayers are paying most of their costs. Irish_Dem Jan 8 #36

ain't america great? rampartd Jan 8 #37

And maybe some microscopic entities they won't Ilsa Jan 9 #61

Billionaires don't care. They have state of the art medical care on demand. Irish_Dem Jan 9 #63

They probably will be hit with double taxation. DFW Jan 9 #50

I broke down in tears at a vigil tonight. yellow dahlia Jan 8 #45

We are all grieving the loss of our country. Irish_Dem Jan 9 #51

Is is worse than we thought it would be... yellow dahlia Jan 9 #58

Exactly. Irish_Dem Jan 9 #59

I wrote a "piece" that was a warning, and I toned it down... yellow dahlia Jan 9 #60

I dont have enough money to move and become a resident of a foreign country, its very very expensive. I wish I could Cheezoholic Jan 8 #2

If you can't move to another country, maybe try moving to a deep blue state thought crime Jan 8 #10

That's be nice. I cant. I have a small home in the country paid off. I'm 63 and disabled Cheezoholic Jan 8 #15

If you have a donkey, you'll be okay. thought crime Jan 8 #35

I'm in a similar situation Random Boomer Jan 9 #47

Moving anti-repub Jan 9 #55

I'm okay. thought crime Jan 9 #62

It's not necessarily that expensive cannabis_flower Jan 8 #16

Won't the credit card companies BonnieJW Jan 8 #20

Soc sec is protected from credit card garnishment Catlady123 Jan 8 #27

That's good to know even for someone like me who has no debt. llmart Jan 8 #43

No, they can't cannabis_flower Jan 8 #28

Like I said, 20 years ago sure. But I'll be lucky to live another 10 years. Not worth the trouble Cheezoholic Jan 8 #22

It is no longer cheap to move to Mexico. MoonchildCA Jan 8 #41

I understand her concerns, but the midterms (if they happen) will key to seeing if things can improve. Doodley Jan 8 #3

I understand your daughter's concern and yours. But I question this Dan Jan 8 #4

I have homegirl Jan 8 #5

Your daughter is not alone in that thinking Quiet Em Jan 8 #6

My great grandfather immigrated here from Italy Dave says Jan 8 #39

Ireland allows dual citizenship for Americans Quiet Em Jan 8 #42

I need to research it myself, not have others do the work for me, but... Dave says Jan 8 #44

Your daughter's situation might be a little different FakeNoose Jan 8 #7

Doing same with my daughter cpamomfromtexas Jan 8 #8

Good luck with all that, however Europe might not be terribly safe for much longer misanthrope Jan 8 #11

I told my trans kid in NC to make an escape plan, NOW FirstLight Jan 8 #13

Contingencies are made... WokeAintWhatIAm Jan 8 #25

I have a nephew who has moved to the UK mnhtnbb Jan 8 #14

All some of us can do is hunker down. Linda ladeewolf Jan 8 #21

I've had friends move to Spain and Norway TBF Jan 8 #17

My niece got an MA at Edinburgh University. stollen Jan 8 #31

My career had me circumnavigating the globe Dave says Jan 8 #40

I get that. stollen Jan 10 #64

Be safe. Joinfortmill Jan 8 #18

WHY jaymac Jan 8 #19

Words cannot offer solace, but now is not the time for that. WokeAintWhatIAm Jan 8 #23

Check direction WokeAintWhatIAm Jan 8 #24

Renes's family is saying otherwise. RandySF Jan 8 #26

It takes about a year from start to finish to get out ime Arazi Jan 8 #29

I don't know how to feel about people who choose to leave because things are difficult. Srkdqltr Jan 8 #30

How do you feel about the people who left Germany before the outbreak of WWII? Random Boomer Jan 9 #48

Yes, but i was just wondering how the left behind felt. Even if they survived? Srkdqltr Jan 9 #49

I'm one of the left-behinds Random Boomer Jan 9 #53

Ok good. Srkdqltr Jan 9 #54

I ain't leaving Nigrum Cattus Jan 8 #38

"The only chains, that we can stand, are the chains of hand in hand" struggle4progress Jan 8 #46

It is good you have the financial ability to help her. Many trapped here do not have such help. I wish her well artemisia1 Jan 9 #52

Thank you for your daughter's service LetMyPeopleVote Jan 9 #56

Are there safe places? GreenWave Jan 9 #57