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walkingman

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20. The US would never accept Article 5 against itself (questionable these days

Tue Jan 6, 2026, 03:52 PM

Jan 6

if the US would accept it even today unless we agree), likely say that what we are doing is vital to our national security, and deny, deny, deny any culpability. This most devastating thing would be internal, not external. Would Congress authorize war? Withdraw from NATO? Would the troops follow orders that clearly violate international law?

IMO, we would see "state level" resistance based on political support and I suspect the end of our so-called "United States". I think that history shows (although we have a very short history) that the US never...ever, admits it's mistakes. We don't even allow the history of our atrocities to be taught these days.

BOTTOM LINE - unless we impeach this lunatic we have running our country we are setting ourselves up for some bad shit.

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How would we react if a foreign country kidnapped Trump? [View all] Ocelot II Jan 6 OP

A strongly worded letter, after the celebrations n/t leftstreet Jan 6 #1

"No give-backs!!!" ret5hd Jan 6 #2

Who's "we?" BlueTsunami2018 Jan 6 #3

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"We" could mean either us right here on DU, or the country as a whole. Ocelot II Jan 6 #22

🤔 It really isn't "half the country". More like 35ish % with ?10% of that being violence prone. electric_blue68 Jan 6 #35

Who is we? mr715 Jan 6 #4

breathe a sigh jaymac Jan 6 #5

I'd be whistling zippity doo dah out of my arse. BannonsLiver Jan 6 #6

I think most would not be happy Ohioboy Jan 6 #8

Realistically? Watch fecklessly as Hegseth's Dept of War bombed said flvegan Jan 6 #9

I'd assume it's Putin just giving him Torchlight Jan 6 #10

Not or, and EdmondDantes_ Jan 6 #11

One can hold more than one pov, even conflicting ones electric_blue68 Jan 6 #36

I would be happy or not care. JI7 Jan 6 #12

I would make them... 2naSalit Jan 6 #13

In that particular set of circumstances, I would be far from outraged personally AZJonnie Jan 6 #14

Certainly Denmark and NATO would have a far better justification for doing it Ocelot II Jan 6 #23

🥂🥳 SuzyandPuffpuff Jan 6 #15

Joyous! ZDU Jan 6 #16

Well, I still have that bottle of Taittinger's in my fridge... Aristus Jan 6 #17

"How would we react if a foreign country kidnapped Trump?" LudwigPastorius Jan 6 #18

Both. Raven123 Jan 6 #19

The US would never accept Article 5 against itself (questionable these days walkingman Jan 6 #20

Happy that he'd be gone, scared how the US would retaliate sakabatou Jan 6 #21

Anyone that would kidnap Trump would quickly give him back Buckeyeblue Jan 6 #24

Like the O'Henry story, "The Ransom of Red Chief." Ocelot II Jan 6 #26

... SheltieLover Jan 6 #32

Oh! Lol electric_blue68 Jan 6 #37

First applause and then a big party. sinkingfeeling Jan 6 #25

Considering who would be in charge Tree Lady Jan 6 #27

👏👏👏👏👏👏 Rebl2 Jan 6 #28

After the past year? get the red out Jan 6 #29

celebration, parties, pay them to never send him back mike_c Jan 6 #30

Wasn't he the cofveevee boy? Lol usedtobedemgurl Jan 6 #43

Nominate them collectively for the biggest Nobel Peace Prize ever? SheltieLover Jan 6 #31

You even have to ask? NoRethugFriends Jan 6 #33

Hopefully, we'd refuse to pay the ransom. Jim__ Jan 6 #34

We'll party till we collapse Wicked Blue Jan 6 #38

With glee and tears in our eyes. gAI Obsession Jan 6 #39

It wouldn't do to make a habit of it. Buns_of_Fire Jan 6 #40

Who? Never heard of the guy. Low level staffer Johonny Jan 6 #41

I'm not happy with the instability in the world system right now nilram Jan 6 #42

Do you accept Visa / Mastercard? Mysterian Jan 6 #44

TRY IT AND FIND OUT !!!! nt eppur_se_muova Jan 6 #45