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hlthe2b

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35. I am sorry... I can scarcely speak to the devastation of public health messaging and policies

Mon Jan 5, 2026, 08:05 PM

Jan 5

in this country today. If the minority of physicians who have sold out and are providing cover to these horrendous memes and destruction of vaccination programs/recommendations had ever seen a child die of measles encephalitis or an infant--desperate to breath but uncontrollably wheezing and coughing with pertussis--or a teen as you describe healthy one day and dead overnight from fulminant course of influenza, well, unless they are total sociopaths, they would do a 180 change overnight and beg for forgiveness.

No, the vaccine is not a great match to the now predominant variant, but it still confers protection against hospitalization and death. Pretty good bargain against a potential sore arm if you ask me.

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So, a friend of my grandson's died with the flu [View all] SheltieLover Jan 5 OP

I thought I read somewhere that the vax for the flu does not affect this flu? Have you read this?? nt in2herbs Jan 5 #1

It's also being said that the current vaccinations reduce the severity of the so-called super flu. n/t Hugin Jan 5 #3

That sort of makes sense, I guess. SheltieLover Jan 5 #8

I think it has me JustAnotherGen Jan 5 #41

Aw, I am sorry you have something. Hugin Jan 5 #46

My husband JustAnotherGen Jan 5 #71

"I Don't think our Government is telling us the truth." wolfie001 Jan 6 #95

This is what I have heard Lithos Jan 6 #114

Thanks for filling out the gist. Hugin Jan 6 #118

Good to hear! ShazzieB Jan 6 #124

My Wife had the flu Seinan Sensei Jan 6 #117

Anecdotal yet intriguing... Hugin Jan 6 #119

It is sabbat hunter Jan 5 #5

Ty for sharing. SheltieLover Jan 5 #9

Yup, but then the article said to get the vax anyway. SheltieLover Jan 5 #6

You are correct. This year's vaccination does not protect against the strain A superflu going around. Ms. Toad Jan 5 #17

Thank you. The flu vaccines have always looked in the rear view mirror (they're aimed at last year's strain). TheRickles Jan 5 #24

Sorta-kinda. Ms. Toad Jan 5 #34

Sorry about your daughter's health. TY for clarification. nt in2herbs Jan 5 #72

Thanks. Ms. Toad Jan 5 #73

I'd rather take my chances with the vaccine than without the vaccine Random Boomer Jan 6 #130

I've had the flu twice in the last quarter century. Ms. Toad Jan 6 #131

I caught the flu one year when the strain differed from that which I was vaccinated... C Moon Jan 6 #126

I'm on day four of something yucky Unwind Your Mind Jan 5 #2

Healing vibes on the way to you. SheltieLover Jan 5 #10

I'm so sorry about your grandsons friend nt Unwind Your Mind Jan 6 #104

Ty SheltieLover Jan 6 #107

I hope it passes quickly. Healing thoughts coming your way. LoisB Jan 5 #65

I'm sorry for the loss of your GS's friend, sad 😢 Clouds Passing Jan 5 #4

Ty, Clouds. SheltieLover Jan 5 #11

Yikes! That age group usually has the lowest risk! surfered Jan 5 #7

I know! And articles are saying this flu is killing more old people. SheltieLover Jan 5 #12

They have to decide each year which strain of flu to develop a vaccine for. surfered Jan 5 #91

Thx SheltieLover Jan 5 #92

The "Spanish" flu disproportionately killed younger people Easterncedar Jan 5 #13

I was just going to add that Sanity Claws Jan 5 #18

My father lost two siblings to the "Spanish" flu. They were 7 and 9. Ritabert Jan 5 #29

My father lost a toddler brother Easterncedar Jan 5 #37

Mother Nature trying every day to bring us back into the ground wolfie001 Jan 6 #96

The Great Influenza killed the young and strong, it was part of Maru Kitteh Jan 5 #28

Here's a nice documentary that describes the influenza pandemic of 1918 . . . xocetaceans Jan 5 #45

My dad was born in 1917. That's a mistake I've made for years, but yes, Maru Kitteh Jan 5 #64

My father was born in 1916. His father died of the Spanish flu in 1918. He was in his 30's. mommymarine2003 Jan 5 #70

The relentlessness of disease, deprivation, war and death in Maru Kitteh Jan 5 #74

They were " killed" by their own immune system overreacting Melon Jan 5 #76

I had Influenza A about 6 months before Covid started and w/out being dramatic, I had never been so sick before that Deuxcents Jan 5 #14

Ty. SheltieLover Jan 5 #19

Too sad malaise Jan 5 #15

Influencer Paul Kim's Son, 5, Dies After Contracting Severe Case of the Flu The Catholic content creator first shared th BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 5 #16

How heartbreaking. SheltieLover Jan 5 #20

Small sample size but this flu seems to be hitting the young BlueWaveNeverEnd Jan 5 #40

Terrifying SheltieLover Jan 5 #43

I'm so sorry mzmolly Jan 5 #21

Ty, Mzmolly SheltieLover Jan 5 #23

My condolences! 2naSalit Jan 5 #22

He was 49 & unvaxed. SheltieLover Jan 5 #25

I'm so sorry! The flu is more serious than many of us realize. nt spooky3 Jan 5 #26

Ty. His relatives called it the super flu SheltieLover Jan 5 #27

FWIW, I heard on the radio today that there is a bad strain going around that was NOT spooky3 Jan 5 #30

You don't have to live in fear. Just get vaccinated and wear a mask! Fil1957 Jan 5 #31

I have been vaccinated. I still wear a mask when I am "out and about." MLWR Jan 5 #32

Make sure you're washing your hands after touching anything frequently touched by others. Ms. Toad Jan 5 #36

I think I read somewhere Dr. Oz was telling not to get vaxxed for the flu. applegrove Jan 5 #33

I am sorry... I can scarcely speak to the devastation of public health messaging and policies hlthe2b Jan 5 #35

Ty! SheltieLover Jan 5 #44

Where? IbogaProject Jan 5 #38

SW TN SheltieLover Jan 5 #47

Washington state and others IbogaProject Jan 5 #66

I have it now JustAnotherGen Jan 5 #39

Healing vibes on the way to you. SheltieLover Jan 5 #48

Here's another tip straight from richdj25 Jan 5 #42

What kind of otc meds? SheltieLover Jan 5 #49

It's time to start wearing masks. We've been ready for this: hoping for the best and prepared for the worst. marble falls Jan 5 #50

I would if I ever left the house SheltieLover Jan 5 #51

We all gotta do what we gotta do. We seem to be on our own. marble falls Jan 5 #52

Yup. SheltieLover Jan 5 #53

It's pretty rough this year Sympthsical Jan 5 #54

Yikes. Sounds scary! SheltieLover Jan 5 #56

Typically it's just a few days Sympthsical Jan 5 #63

I'm So Sorry, Sheltie... That's so Cha Jan 5 #55

Mahalo, Cha SheltieLover Jan 5 #57

Sad and important. I know the retirement bronxiteforever Jan 5 #58

Good for them! SheltieLover Jan 5 #59

You stay safe too SheltieLover. bronxiteforever Jan 5 #60

I never leave my house, so I'm ok SheltieLover Jan 5 #61

Be careful HighFired49 Jan 6 #115

I am. SheltieLover Jan 6 #116

I am so sorry Sheltie. irisblue Jan 5 #62

Ty, Iris SheltieLover Jan 5 #68

How sad. My sympathies to his family and friends and your grandson. LoisB Jan 5 #67

Ty, Lois SheltieLover Jan 5 #69

I recall a really bad flu strain 12 or more years ago that hit teens and young adults particularly hard Attilatheblond Jan 5 #75

Yes. I read that the phenomenon occurred in the influenza pandemic of 1918-1920. John1956PA Jan 5 #77

And with COVID as well SheltieLover Jan 5 #79

Yep. As someone with an autoimmune disorder, I can vouch for the fact that our bodies can & do turn against us. Attilatheblond Jan 5 #83

Oh I know they can SheltieLover Jan 5 #85

Thank you, Sheltie, for that bit of information. John1956PA Jan 5 #87

Omg how sad SheltieLover Jan 5 #88

I believe COVID caused a cytokine in the wordt cases, too SheltieLover Jan 5 #78

I was one of the unlucky few who caught that one. Hugin Jan 5 #86

FluView https://www.cdc.gov/fluview/surveillance/2025-week-52.html Blues Heron Jan 5 #80

Ty for sharing. SheltieLover Jan 5 #82

That poor family, and this must have shaken you Sheltie. Maru Kitteh Jan 5 #81

Ty, Maru SheltieLover Jan 5 #84

I think my husband picked it up at a hockey tournament. EllieBC Jan 5 #89

I hope he is ok now. SheltieLover Jan 5 #90

I'm really sorry EllieBC Jan 6 #93

Ty SheltieLover Jan 6 #94

Here's the article surfered Jan 6 #97

Ty! SheltieLover Jan 6 #98

The flu virus is a shape shifter. Aussie105 Jan 6 #99

Yup SheltieLover Jan 6 #100

Take care and make sure you have your vaccinations up to date LetMyPeopleVote Jan 6 #101

Ty. You too. SheltieLover Jan 6 #102

I got my flu shot back in September and my latest COVID shot 9 days ago LetMyPeopleVote Jan 6 #103

That's awful! LittleGirl Jan 6 #105

Glad you & hubby are ok. SheltieLover Jan 6 #106

Absolutely right -- it's never TOO late to vax, but it's always best to vax early Rocknation Jan 6 #108

Ty SheltieLover Jan 6 #110

There was a 16 y.o. girl that died of the flu here in the Dayton, Ohio area. Xavier Breath Jan 6 #109

Is that the 16 yr old that had a fever one day & died the next day? SheltieLover Jan 6 #111

My impression from the interview was that she was healthy and that it happened rather quickly. Xavier Breath Jan 6 #112

Ty. Deceased's family members told me of a similar story. SheltieLover Jan 6 #113

Here is a wonderful resource that can be trusted: barbtries Jan 6 #120

Thx SheltieLover Jan 6 #122

I made sure my 22 year old was vaccinated for flu and covid. None of his friends are. SunSeeker Jan 6 #121

Glad your kiddo is vaxed! SheltieLover Jan 6 #123

Yes, take all preventive measures! However, if you DO get the flu... Wednesdays Jan 6 #125

Ty for sharing! SheltieLover Jan 6 #127

As it happens... momta Jan 6 #128

Glad you're vaxed up! SheltieLover Jan 6 #129