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patphil

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11. We played this game before with Noriega, president of Panama.

Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:13 AM

Jan 4

He spent time in a US prison and was passed to France and then back to Panama, where he died in prison.
Just like Venezuela, Panama was a drug distribution center, not a producer.
The big differences were that Noriega was also involved in weapons traffic, and, of course, Panama was a lot smaller than Venezuela and had no oil.

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