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sir pball

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22. Nah, thanks.

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 08:59 PM

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The Shoah was the worst crime in human history and I am not trying to, and would not, ever deny that.

But the Eastern Front losses make the organized Nazi extermination efforts look amateurish in terms of bodies. Treblinka blushes at the Siege of Stalingrad.

Look deep, deep in my past here (like 2016, hint, Purell) if you wish to accuse me of antisemitism or denialism.

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A dark topic, but...the Holocaust wasn't the bloodiest event of WWII, by far. [View all] sir pball Jan 2 OP

China also suffered twenty-something million dead (estimates vary) from '37-'45. RockRaven Jan 2 #1

Is it a contest? nt LexVegas Jan 2 #2

It kinda is... purr-rat beauty Jan 2 #4

No, and that's exactly my point. sir pball Jan 2 #5

Thank you for this post, my dear sir pball . . . CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2 #3

That's an AND, not an OR. Iggo Jan 2 #6

Is there a point to this? sarisataka Jan 2 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Saturday #12

Call me stupid, but B.See Saturday #8

I'm not saying it was morally equivalent. sir pball Saturday #20

No, it isn't. Rather B.See Saturday #33

In what context do you think people are ignoring it? meadowlander Sunday #37

There are people in this very post sir pball Sunday #38

Sure but what's the relevance for discussing that in a forum set up to discuss current US politics? meadowlander Sunday #41

Well, for one I was told to post it here, and two, GD is not "current US politics", it's "General Discussion". sir pball Monday #43

Add to that the many millions Stalin killed Kaleva Saturday #9

Ethnic Russian losses were about 14 million during WWII Kaleva Saturday #10

Does it really matter? Xolodno Saturday #11

It shows that Russians were very liberal in their sacrificing Kaleva Saturday #14

That's a very generalized statement that frankly isn't true. Xolodno Saturday #19

Which supports my point Kaleva Sunday #34

Many thought WW1 was the epitome and would stop such savage aggression. Xolodno Saturday #13

Correct malaise Saturday #15

Adding the millions in Ukraine who died of starvation because no_hypocrisy Saturday #16

hey fyi this kind of score-keeping is often found on paths to Holocaust denialism and/or basic antisemitism and is not a WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #17

It's also how the nazis keep their victims fighting each other instead of fighting the nazis. Iggo Saturday #18

Nah, thanks. sir pball Saturday #22

Then why did you even need to bring up the Holocaust iemanja Saturday #23

To sharpen it. sir pball Saturday #25

You're making comparisons that other people also regularly make while denying the Holocaust. If you don't want people WhiskeyGrinder Sunday #35

ELI5 how am I denying the Holocaust, please. sir pball Sunday #39

There is a difference between people dying in battle iemanja Saturday #21

The Nazis absolutely wanted to genocide Russians, Slavs. sir pball Saturday #24

Why then did you say that you think the Holocaust was the worst crime in history? iemanja Saturday #26

Thinking of a crime and executing it are two different things. sir pball Saturday #27

This has an anti-Semitic undertones to it Bluestocking Saturday #28

Yeah, I expected this. sir pball Saturday #29

Remember Pearl Harbor Bluestocking Saturday #30

and the 16th through 19th slaughter of indigenous peoples in America and Australia DBoon Saturday #31

It wasn't just russians, but it did reflect Crunchy Frog Saturday #32

If you're counting bodies ... Kennah Sunday #36

I've literally said that here several times, yes. sir pball Sunday #40

That was the result of the Soviet system and a mindset Kennah Monday #42