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Gore1FL

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58. The question asked was concerning the Democratic response.

Sat Jan 3, 2026, 09:30 AM

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You are free to make a thread concerning the GOP response. Suggesting that this is either an unworthy topic, or somehow an attack is misplaced, however. Accountability isn't just for the other side.

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Will Democrats call this an illegal action? [View all] ScratchCat Jan 3 OP

Will republicans? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #1

Will Democrats? Scrivener7 Jan 3 #2

So blame democrats SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #3

I would hope that Bettie Jan 3 #5

Little else they can do SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #6

How is expecting my leaders to speak and act for me in a way I support -- which is why they get my vote -- an attack? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #7

Because they have no power despite your vote SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #9

You have a very narrow idea of what power is, I guess. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #11

Their "power" (words) will be ridiculed as "fist-shaking" and "sternly written letters"... QueerDuck Jan 3 #19

Exactly mcar Jan 3 #120

Every time! Must be tradition by now. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 3 #123

Tradition... habit... compulsion... obsession... fixation... monomania. (Pick one.) QueerDuck Sunday #184

Yes, it's defined as controlling a branch of government SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #23

That is *one* definition of *one kind* of power, sure. I'll leave you to it. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #29

Yes it's called legal power SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #38

Or some have no idea what power is. W_HAMILTON Jan 3 #122

don't I fuckin know it WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #135

No power doesn't mean no voice. CrispyQ Jan 3 #71

So instead of holding republicans accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #73

Apparently your definition of attack includes voicing disagreement with dem leadership. Mine doesn't. CrispyQ Jan 3 #77

Yes it does SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #88

Huh Cirsium Jan 3 #156

I'm calling for republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #157

It isn't Cirsium Jan 3 #160

Yes I am calling for republicans to be held accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #161

OK Cirsium Jan 3 #163

What democrats have I attacked? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #164

Democrats right here Cirsium Jan 3 #168

What democrats right here? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #170

I guess you win Cirsium Jan 3 #174

It's not about winning SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #175

I think the politics on this are pretty simple for Democrats BannonsLiver Jan 3 #177

I agree. yellow dahlia Jan 3 #180

Trump and his fascists have waged illegal war against a sovereign nation mcar Jan 3 #137

I don't understand why Ken Martin beat Martin O'Malley yellow dahlia Jan 3 #179

That doesn't mean that we shouldn't choie Jan 3 #79

So we shouldn't hold republicans accountable? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #84

Oh for CHRISSAKES! choie Jan 3 #85

Yet some have spent a lot of time SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #89

Thank you. Joinfortmill Jan 3 #101

No we don't know that mcar Jan 3 #138

The Democratic leadership should hold the GOP accountable. PufPuf23 Jan 3 #124

Exactly what should they be doing? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #126

The really sad thing for me is ...... walkingman Jan 3 #133

And how should they be doing that? mcar Jan 3 #139

I completely disagree JBTaurus83 Jan 3 #129

Do they? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #148

I do understand your point JBTaurus83 Jan 3 #178

Many have already SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #182

Both of my Democratic senators voted to confirm Rubio. How would you suggest giving feedback about that? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #10

So blame a whole party SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #14

no no I was just asking about my two senators WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #17

I don't know who your senators are SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #20

Klobuchar and Smith. Two Democrats who voted to confirm the nomination of Marco Rubio. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #21

And how does that make them responsible SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #24

lmaoooooo you're right Democrats are helpless babies who should not be held accountable for anything WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #25

Why are you against holding republicans accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #39

How can I hold republicans accountable if I have no power over them? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #50

So you don't believe in SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #57

No, I asked a different question that you're not answering. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #61

I'm not required to answer anyone's question SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #62

lol having come full circle, I'll disembark here WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #63

Well then SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #66

Will Republicans call this action illegal? WDLAL Jan 3 #109

Call them and tell them what you want. I called mine tirebiter Jan 3 #147

Do we have the same senators? CrispyQ Jan 3 #74

Spoiler alert: All senators voted to confirm Rubio. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #76

I was more upset that Hick voted for some of the more heinous ones & almost tied Fetterman. CrispyQ Jan 3 #78

I don't think they believed he would sell his soul. He did. Joinfortmill Jan 3 #104

So asking for a united voice of condemnation is an attack, now? Scrivener7 Jan 3 #13

Or maybe focus on republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #16

Or maybe asking for a united voice of condemnation Scrivener7 Jan 3 #22

It's constructing a purity test for democrats SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #27

This message was self-deleted by its author WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #31

uh no... that's a really absurd take Takket Jan 3 #41

Why not call out republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #51

The question asked was concerning the Democratic response. Gore1FL Jan 3 #58

So we are not allowed to say SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #60

I literally suggested you make a thread on that topic. I have no say on what is allowed, but clearly, I encourage it. Gore1FL Jan 3 #64

Maybe I will SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #68

As you should. nt Gore1FL Jan 3 #69

Nobody is saying that except you. CrispyQ Jan 3 #82

Sorry SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #92

Ditto. -nt CrispyQ Jan 3 #132

Well, I'm not certain 'criticism' is what is being asked. Joinfortmill Jan 3 #105

It's creating a purity test for democrats SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #107

So, are you hoping that Bettie Jan 3 #93

No SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #94

I'm criticizing Republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #146

This +1000! mcar Jan 3 #140

They can speak out against illegal actions Bettie Jan 3 #37

There is a small but vocal group here that consistently insists that we not "subject" Scrivener7 Jan 3 #45

There is a a group who consistently let republicans off the hook SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #72

I agree and Bettie Jan 3 #102

I think so too. I think we have some trolls here who use this position as a Scrivener7 Jan 3 #116

That's where I am as well Bettie Jan 3 #142

Why not expend energy calling out republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #46

I think there's a rush of adrenaline that comes from these calls for purity... QueerDuck Jan 3 #80

Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #90

Agree. Completely. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 3 #131

Your whole interaction on this thread is bashing DU Democrats LuvLoogie Jan 3 #96

No SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #97

Yes. It seems to be an attempt to silence requests for a concerted opposition to this illegal attack. Scrivener7 Jan 3 #119

They are and have been all day! mcar Jan 3 #144

Thread started pretty early in the morning Bettie Jan 3 #150

I agree Grim Chieftain Jan 3 #83

They're all over socials condemning it. CousinIT Jan 3 #154

When I saw the news it was early in the day Bettie Jan 3 #162

Yikes. Hope you feel better soon! CousinIT Jan 3 #166

Auto accident on the 19th Bettie Jan 3 #172

Well that sucks! Take care of yourself! CousinIT Jan 3 #173

I don't see blame. I see someone asking if Democrats Scrivener7 Jan 3 #8

Maybe we should be asking republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #12

So you don't believe we should be allowed to ask for a united voice of condemnation. Scrivener7 Jan 3 #15

I believe that we should be holding republicans accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #18

Again, asking for a united voice of opposition from the leaders we elected to an obiously Scrivener7 Jan 3 #26

Let's hold republicans accountable SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #32

Again, stop implying our elected leaders are useless whimps who have no role to play. That's disrespectful. Scrivener7 Jan 3 #34

Those are your words not mine. SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #42

No. They're very clearly your meaning. And again, no one blamed Democrats for anything. Scrivener7 Jan 3 #49

No, it's your spin SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #53

No. It's the clear meaning of all your posts in this thread. And PS: we elect our Democratic Scrivener7 Jan 3 #55

No the meaning of my posts is SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #65

We elect our Democratic leaders to specifically hold republicans accountable in situations like this. That's Scrivener7 Jan 3 #75

So it's all on them SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #86

Again, how do you plan to make republicans hear you without going through the Democratic leaders Scrivener7 Jan 3 #111

How about start by criticizing them SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #112

That lamppost you are yelling at is not going to do anything. Scrivener7 Jan 3 #115

What's wrong with SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #117

To whom? To you? And what does that do? What is wrong with asking Democrats, whose Scrivener7 Jan 3 #121

To everyone SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #125

"To everyone"? Really? How are you criticizing the republicans "to everyone" for this? Scrivener7 Jan 3 #127

You weren't criticizing SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #128

You have no answer but I'll ask again: How are you criticizing republicans "to everyone" individually today in response Scrivener7 Jan 3 #130

Why are you so hostile to criticizing Republicans? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #145

Strawman-ing like that is the last refuge of those who have no actual answer. But I'll ask again: Scrivener7 Jan 3 #158

Why is criticizing republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #159

This is a straw man, as you know very well, and you keep repeating it because you have no answer. Scrivener7 Jan 3 #165

So you support focusing on SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #167

Thank you for conceding that you have no answer, and that you are simply Scrivener7 Jan 3 #169

I don't concede that we should be criticizing republicans SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #171

You are correct. These types of things are ambiguous enough to leave a plausible "just asking questions" excuse... QueerDuck Jan 3 #30

It always amazes me SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #36

It's a predictable pattern. I'm no longer amazed at who or when, but I'm always disappointed... QueerDuck Jan 3 #40

No blame Maine Abu El Banat Jan 3 #81

What is stopping you? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #91

I also have a vote Maine Abu El Banat Jan 3 #113

Against republicans? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #118

Which party azureblue Jan 3 #87

Have you gone to the halls of Congress to hang around and point at republicans and shout "I accuse you!"? Scrivener7 Jan 3 #114

Rep Jim McGovern did. Torchlight Jan 3 #4

anyone who doesn't should be primaried at the next election. Takket Jan 3 #28

We don't know how this will pan out. If it results in a peaceful and rapid regime change for the Doodley Jan 3 #67

Democrats should do whatever is needed to win elections JI7 Jan 3 #33

MAGA will accuse Democrats of siding with a dictator who they will lie has killed millions of Americans. Doodley Jan 3 #35

I agree... see my post #28. Our opposition to this has to be in support of the law, not Maduro. Takket Jan 3 #44

The average maga guy can't tell the difference. Everything has to be personal with them Walleye Jan 3 #54

Exactly. "Bad man gone. Trump did it! We love Trump!" That's all they need care about. Doodley Jan 3 #70

Let's not take the bait RoseTrellis Jan 3 #108

Maga will always accuse us of stuff. Doesn't matter what we've done. Walleye Jan 3 #52

Do we want to win the midterms or not? Doodley Jan 3 #59

Probably so. BannonsLiver Jan 3 #110

Let's face it... BH liberal Jan 3 #43

I want to know where ALL members of Congress stand on this attack on Venezuela. democrank Jan 3 #47

They had better malaise Jan 3 #48

Ummm....they already have? paleotn Jan 3 #56

You know the war on Venezuela is nothing more Farmer-Rick Jan 3 #95

Or he's become a SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #99

?? CrystalwolfLady Jan 3 #98

Anyone have a link or source to the official justification or hte Venezuelan action? Tarc Jan 3 #100

It was supposedly to protect Americans serving an arrest warrant. See this: highplainsdem Jan 3 #103

While there seems to be little else Alliepoo Jan 3 #106

You first! MorbidButterflyTat Jan 3 #149

As always: never give the benefit of the doubt, assume the worst, stir up cynicism, blame, anger at Democrats. betsuni Jan 3 #134

Exactly SocialDemocrat61 Jan 3 #153

Yes mcar Jan 3 #136

If you're going to draw a line in the sand there had better be some serious consequences if it's crossed. BannonsLiver Jan 3 #141

For today, a unified condemnation would be very nice. Scrivener7 Jan 3 #143

Should be at the very least a vote on the war powers act ASAP but don't hold your breath. nt yaesu Jan 3 #151

Good question RandySF Jan 3 #152

Nice hit and run sarisataka Jan 3 #155

I'm tired of this obsession with listening for the exact right words. RandySF Jan 3 #176

Goldilocks waiting for just the right exact magic words purity test. betsuni Jan 3 #181

We just illegally invaded another country. Hoping to hear EVERY Democrat say, "That was wrong" Scrivener7 Sunday #185

WILL ANYONE? Skittles Sunday #183