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sir pball

(5,253 posts) Fri Jan 2, 2026, 11:10 PM Jan 2

A dark topic, but...the Holocaust wasn't the bloodiest event of WWII, by far. [View all]

The Holocaust, including non-Jews (disabled, Romani, Slavs, &c.) killed around 11-12 million…6 million Jews plus assorted others.

The Russians lost, between soldiers and civilians…around twenty-seven million people.

That's about 8% of the entire US population.

I don't really wonder why Russia and Germany hate each other to this day.

(posting this here because I was told to)

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A dark topic, but...the Holocaust wasn't the bloodiest event of WWII, by far. [View all] sir pball Jan 2 OP

China also suffered twenty-something million dead (estimates vary) from '37-'45. RockRaven Jan 2 #1

Is it a contest? nt LexVegas Jan 2 #2

It kinda is... purr-rat beauty Jan 2 #4

No, and that's exactly my point. sir pball Jan 2 #5

Thank you for this post, my dear sir pball . . . CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2 #3

That's an AND, not an OR. Iggo Jan 2 #6

Is there a point to this? sarisataka Jan 2 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jan 3 #12

Call me stupid, but B.See Jan 3 #8

I'm not saying it was morally equivalent. sir pball Jan 3 #20

No, it isn't. Rather B.See Jan 3 #33

In what context do you think people are ignoring it? meadowlander Jan 4 #37

There are people in this very post sir pball Jan 4 #38

Sure but what's the relevance for discussing that in a forum set up to discuss current US politics? meadowlander Jan 4 #41

Well, for one I was told to post it here, and two, GD is not "current US politics", it's "General Discussion". sir pball Jan 5 #43

Add to that the many millions Stalin killed Kaleva Jan 3 #9

Ethnic Russian losses were about 14 million during WWII Kaleva Jan 3 #10

Does it really matter? Xolodno Jan 3 #11

It shows that Russians were very liberal in their sacrificing Kaleva Jan 3 #14

That's a very generalized statement that frankly isn't true. Xolodno Jan 3 #19

Which supports my point Kaleva Jan 4 #34

Many thought WW1 was the epitome and would stop such savage aggression. Xolodno Jan 3 #13

Correct malaise Jan 3 #15

Adding the millions in Ukraine who died of starvation because no_hypocrisy Jan 3 #16

hey fyi this kind of score-keeping is often found on paths to Holocaust denialism and/or basic antisemitism and is not a WhiskeyGrinder Jan 3 #17

It's also how the nazis keep their victims fighting each other instead of fighting the nazis. Iggo Jan 3 #18

Nah, thanks. sir pball Jan 3 #22

Then why did you even need to bring up the Holocaust iemanja Jan 3 #23

To sharpen it. sir pball Jan 3 #25

You're making comparisons that other people also regularly make while denying the Holocaust. If you don't want people WhiskeyGrinder Jan 4 #35

ELI5 how am I denying the Holocaust, please. sir pball Jan 4 #39

There is a difference between people dying in battle iemanja Jan 3 #21

The Nazis absolutely wanted to genocide Russians, Slavs. sir pball Jan 3 #24

Why then did you say that you think the Holocaust was the worst crime in history? iemanja Jan 3 #26

Thinking of a crime and executing it are two different things. sir pball Jan 3 #27

This has an anti-Semitic undertones to it Bluestocking Jan 3 #28

Yeah, I expected this. sir pball Jan 3 #29

Remember Pearl Harbor Bluestocking Jan 3 #30

and the 16th through 19th slaughter of indigenous peoples in America and Australia DBoon Jan 3 #31

It wasn't just russians, but it did reflect Crunchy Frog Jan 3 #32

If you're counting bodies ... Kennah Jan 4 #36

I've literally said that here several times, yes. sir pball Jan 4 #40

That was the result of the Soviet system and a mindset Kennah Jan 5 #42