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FascismIsDeath

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85. Oh yea, it definitely causes problems.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:56 PM
Jan 1

People will take an entire legacy code base and try to run it through some AI model trained on newer languages and expect it to spit out a modernized, cleanly refactored system with good architecture. You will end up with total garbage doing it that way. But if someone who actually knows what they are doing takes an incremental approach, you can make it work well with guidance and strategical planning. "One prompt fixes everything" is not a thing that exists..... yet.

And again, please keep in mind, I'm not defending any of this, I'm one of the people that could lose everything if this ever takes off in a way that makes me irrelevant. I'm just stating factual information based entirely off my own expertise. Generative AI, no matter what purpose its serving, whether it be to generate some form of media like photos and videos or whether its used to piece together code or write some kind of paper or create some kind of music, works way better when its a small steps approach with points of human intervention and tweaking along the way. I got really in the weeds with this stuff a few years ago, as I said, for my own job and honestly, I wanted to see what I was up against.

I agree with you that there is a slight possibility that "AI-free" will be a good marketing strategy for some things... probably moreso for artistic stuff though. I'm a music snob and a hobbyist musician myself and I'd never have AI-generated music in my rotation nor would I ever want to use it with my own little song writing projects. I imagine a lot of other people feel the same way when it comes to other art forms and probably video games too. It may even be a net positive for artists in the future where people would pay more for naturally created arts, increasing its value if its certified "AI-free".

I'm not sure how much weight that will have on other things, specifically in my industry where clients only care about going to a web app and having it do what they need it to do for business purposes. Those kinds of clients will never care how it was done as long as they get the result they want at the end. And that is, again, why I have a lot of anxiety about my own future.

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A lot of AI is ridiculously obvious; but some are not. hlthe2b Dec 29 #1
Oops, wrong reply mike_c Dec 29 #4
I saved my reply to yours, if you want to repost your "don't throw out the baby with the bath water" highplainsdem Dec 29 #9
I know. But we have people here who are knowingly posting AI slop as if it's somehow a plus on a highplainsdem Dec 29 #6
True -- and I'm pretty confident that was the root purpose of this OP. KPN Dec 29 #35
So easy to spot, so awful. I've tried a few YouTube short NewHendoLib Dec 29 #2
And those AI-slop documentaries are flooding YouTube now, making it harder and harder to find real highplainsdem Dec 29 #16
And a lot of the AI slop that we see on social media PatSeg Dec 29 #23
As far as the ones that are less obvious.. mdbl Dec 29 #30
That's interesting PatSeg Dec 29 #36
Is this video from George Conway real or fake? Renew Deal Dec 29 #59
Fake, and it's labeled "Altered or synthetic content" on the video thumbnail, and the YouTube channel highplainsdem Dec 29 #63
This very upsetting, Highplainsdem!! brakester Dec 30 #67
That youtube channel isn't affiliated with Conway at all. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 30 #68
Disclaimer brakester Dec 31 #84
Kick SheltieLover Dec 29 #3
Thanks! highplainsdem Dec 29 #17
Yw SheltieLover Dec 29 #21
K&R. Thanks for your work. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 29 #5
You're welcome! Thanks for everything you've posted about this, too. highplainsdem Dec 29 #10
r&k MerryBlooms Dec 29 #7
Thank you! highplainsdem Dec 29 #18
Excellent responses in that thread. progressoid Dec 29 #8
I'll Second That! ProfessorGAC Dec 29 #13
Hundreds. There should be a link to see more replies when you get to the end of the first batch. highplainsdem Dec 29 #19
I Thought I Did ProfessorGAC Dec 29 #22
You have to click on her post here highplainsdem Dec 29 #24
I Did ProfessorGAC Dec 29 #41
Aren't they, though? As much as she upset her own union members and left them feeling betrayed, their highplainsdem Dec 29 #14
Generated AI for content is slop...but AI technology is here to stay and will continue to exponentially grow. Melon Dec 29 #11
GenAI is a technological dead end, inherently flawed with hallucinations, fundamentally unethical because of highplainsdem Dec 29 #12
Agreed on the ethics part of it but GenAI isn't going anywhere either. The bubble will burst but there will be survivors FascismIsDeath Dec 30 #76
There's enough of a backlash already that I think we can reach a point where it's considered highplainsdem Dec 30 #79
Yea I think you're giving our citizens way too much credit. FascismIsDeath Dec 31 #81
I'm just going off what I've read and heard, but based on that, I'm expecting more and highplainsdem Dec 31 #83
Oh yea, it definitely causes problems. FascismIsDeath Jan 1 #85
Microplastics are here to stay as well, doesn't mean we shouldn't try to eat less of them. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 29 #15
Right! highplainsdem Dec 29 #20
So what? Cirsium Dec 29 #26
You can be against anything...like the protest over cars versus buggy's Melon Dec 29 #50
Horrible Cirsium Dec 29 #52
No it's not. The race for AI dominance is driving all the market volatility we see... Melon Dec 29 #64
It's a bubble Cirsium Dec 30 #66
No country is going to get to AGI, let alone ASI, building more data centers for genAI, which is the highplainsdem Dec 29 #58
Somebody tell Thom Hartman Bobstandard Dec 29 #25
Has he changed it recently? Cirsium Dec 29 #28
He shouldn't be using AI. It's an insult to real musicians and helps only AI bros. He could ask his highplainsdem Dec 29 #40
DU ain't as pro-union as it likes to think it is. LudwigPastorius Dec 29 #27
Well, we're all endangered by genAI now, and even if DUers aren't in unions, they need to understand highplainsdem Dec 29 #33
Opposing that bill didn't have anything to do with being anti-union EarlG Dec 29 #37
Thanks for explaining! Just googled the date for that and it was back when caregiving and highplainsdem Dec 29 #42
I disagree, and I'm not going to argue , but I will say... LudwigPastorius Dec 29 #43
I'm not opposed to meaningful legislation that would stem the tide of copyrighted works online EarlG Dec 29 #46
As I've told other DUers who were professional musicians, we'd love to hear your music, if you highplainsdem Dec 29 #61
SOPA awful though Polybius Dec 29 #62
Thanks Cirsium Dec 29 #29
You're very welcome! Thanks for the reply! highplainsdem Dec 29 #44
What worries me The Madcap Dec 29 #31
It's insane for companies to risk their own data that way. But I've never seen as much hype to highplainsdem Dec 29 #45
Feel like we should bring back the un-rec experiment nilram Dec 29 #32
Why would you want to unrec a post about how union members and supporters feel about AI slop? If highplainsdem Dec 29 #34
Wasn't clear: wanting to unrec AI slop, not this thread. nilram Dec 29 #48
Thanks for explaining! I'm relieved to hear that's what you meant. highplainsdem Dec 29 #51
Kicked for visibility. Seems our species denial of unintended consequences KPN Dec 29 #38
Thanks! And I agree that entirely too many people are unable to see or deliberately ignoring all the highplainsdem Dec 29 #47
I have earned my living... GiqueCee Dec 29 #39
I'm so sorry you ran into that. I agree that business types, suits, are often both too contemptuous of artists, and highplainsdem Dec 29 #55
Wow...I missed this...i guess bc I'm not really following stuff closely, being out of the field.... electric_blue68 Dec 30 #73
I could hardly believe how vicious the "Chamber of Progress" people were when talking about highplainsdem Dec 30 #74
Lord knows, most artists are not wealthy! electric_blue68 Dec 30 #75
Astute business sense... GiqueCee Dec 31 #82
As a former graphic designer, and sometimes illustrator, when not doing clerical work, and long time artist of 55+ yrs.. electric_blue68 Dec 30 #72
I wish you the best of luck with the new painting, and I think the disgust with AI slop and the backlash highplainsdem Dec 30 #77
Thanks for this breakdown, and for your good wishes! electric_blue68 Dec 30 #80
"Anyone can be an artist now!" - AI Tech Bros Oneironaut Jan 1 #86
Would that the subject matter be in a glass jar, controlled. cachukis Dec 29 #49
I'm outraged... WarGamer Dec 29 #53
I'm amused that you think that's a good reply countering what all those people were saying. But hey, highplainsdem Dec 29 #56
No way to block it on here, is there? TommyT139 Dec 29 #54
A forum just for posting AI slop and talking about how wonderful AI is would be an even worse look highplainsdem Dec 29 #57
Block what? Renew Deal Dec 29 #60
Add AI "artwork" to that list, I'd say (nt) Orrex Dec 30 #78
kick highplainsdem Dec 30 #65
Kick electric_blue68 Dec 30 #69
Thanks! highplainsdem Dec 30 #70
YW electric_blue68 Dec 30 #71
I'm a creative, I'll never support the use of "AI" for any reason. None at all. mucholderthandirt Jan 2 #87
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