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moniss

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Wed Dec 31, 2025, 08:23 PM Dec 31

So I was at the grocer's today and [View all]

although a week ago some beef prices had moderated they were back up to nearly the high of the year. Maybe price gouging for the holidays. I still saw few people around the meat case and the few that were just stared and weren't picking anything into their carts. When the public moves to belt tightening it is not something that changes back with a snap of the fingers and a "sale" or two.

I think people are well aware of the other costs in their lives going up. No amount of "creative" GDP or other numbers or proclamations from the fascists of price reductions that in the end are more aspirational than immediate are going to turn the herd back to spending as freely as before. Those of us who have lived through the general American public going into a belt tightening several times before know how this goes.

The bottom line is that people know what the ink on the paycheck says and elusive claims of "lower costs" down the road don't do squat to change that ink or the ink on the bills to be paid. Another one of the old tried and true signals of general belt tightening is when you see more and more vehicles sitting on front lawns and other areas with "For Sale" signs on them. I've seen that ramping up for the last few months. People are selling that 2nd or 3rd car. Getting rid of them not only brings in some cash but it also lowers costs for the household going forward.

We need to keep an eye on the foreclosure numbers, repo numbers, late credit card payment numbers, bankruptcies etc. The idea that the fascists are pushing the idea of a 50 year mortgage tells you how screwed up real estate valuations are compared to incomes. Good grief I remember when I first bought a house and most mortgages were 20 and 25 year and a healthy amount were 15 year. We have the same issues with vehicles. Pricing so out of whack to incomes that people are talking about pushing 10 year loans and more.

All of that is just digging the hole deeper. As most of us can attest there are many things that can happen to earning capacity, job availability, family health etc. and household income over a 10 year period let alone 50 years.

The hole is bad enough. Let's stop digging.

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Isn't that it. mercuryblues Dec 31 #1
Inflation caused also by tRump tariffs FoxNewsSucks Dec 31 #3
Except don't let them take away words. There is nothing wrong with discussing affordability. travelingthrulife Jan 1 #14
Trump & Co. Making America 'Great' B.See Dec 31 #2
When Trump tells us the economy is great and prices are coming down Diamond_Dog Dec 31 #4
Fox News needs to be shut down before MAGA will ever notice. travelingthrulife Jan 1 #15
You write well cachukis Dec 31 #5
Thank you for the nice compliment. nt moniss Dec 31 #8
I went shopping just before Christmas (in Canada) and got beef sirloin tip Bev54 Dec 31 #6
Shopped today at a popular grocery dweller Dec 31 #7
Yes indeed and I have noticed some quality issues moniss Dec 31 #9
Same. Tried to buy asparagus and the picking were slim and they looked terrible. Produce guy said they are Raftergirl Jan 1 #16
Interesting. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 31 #10
Plain old chuck roast is moniss Dec 31 #11
Trump can take credit for all the cheap beef he got from Argentina rather than American farmers and ranchers. Norrrm Jan 1 #12
You mentioned late credit card payments. The amount of card debt has been rising since Q4/22. It currently sits at 1.23T flashman13 Jan 1 #13
I bought a bottom round roast a few weeks ago, it was $7.99/lb at the butcher shop. Very reasonable, imo. Raftergirl Jan 1 #17
Yes sometimes it's hit or miss on pricing and moniss Jan 1 #18
My local butcher shop is excellent. I usually go once a month and stock up. I have a freezer chest so plenty of Raftergirl Jan 1 #19
Sounds wonderful and sometimes I wish I had moniss Jan 1 #20
We love soup in our house. H just made a pot a lentil soup - which is sort of his traditional New Years Day Raftergirl Jan 1 #21
I'm just glad I don't have debt. House and land paid for, though it's not much of a house. mucholderthandirt Jan 2 #22
No good sales jonstl08 Jan 2 #23
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