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PCIntern

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Sat Dec 13, 2025, 08:00 AM Dec 13

Well, I'm back from my cruise and [View all]

have of course made some (very unoriginal) observations about humanity in America.

Please allow me to preface this by saying that I am a veteran cruiser primarily because I thoroughly enjoy the metaphysical experience of leaving land and all the issues which I had to face in my younger years which plague me to this day: family dysfunction, career issues, bad political landscape, and the seemingly endless tragedies unfolding nearly everywhere, reported breathlessly by the media. The nihilistic carefree consumption of alcohol, not to get inebriated because I have a very high tolerance for that, but because it was socially acceptable to begin drinking at 9 A.M. and I could do that with no negative judgements, was my way of flipping the bird at my regimented, very sober daily lifestyle on land.

So I’m a pro at this and came to some not-so-new conclusions during this particular trip:

Gluttony combined with a peculiar form of narcissistic denial has created a whole class of morbidly obese individuals who needed to travel around the ship by electric scooter. One very nice lady to whom I spoke was telling me that she thought she could navigate the ship by walking but that the 900+ foot vessel was beyond her capabilities. And she was right about that: I am certain she weighed more than 350 pounds and was on her third large plate of breakfast food from the buffet. The platters each contained huge amounts of carbohydrates with syrup and as a “cherry on top” many strips of bacon, and not the crispy kind. She admitted she was overeating but “that’s what this is for!”, and I smiled back. She was clearly in Heaven. And she was not alone: there were hundreds of these scooters and similar individuals driving them all over, and as an aside, there were a significant number of vehicular accidents involving “pedestrians”, some fairly serious.

If you’ve ever been on a cruise ship of the giant variety you know that the visual field is one of elongation: in many places, the corridor narrows nearly to a vanishing point and if you looked down the line in the buffet or waiting to go to a show in the giant theater, or embarkation, it is emblematic of our era. Look at similar photos from the 1970’s: a whole different appearance of individuals. And please, many of these people were lovely: friendly, kind, interesting, appropriately inquisitive. But medically, I feel for them and their families. I myself am somewhat overweight but look positively svelte in this context.

The other thing which has always amazed me about America and I’m certain most of the rest of the world is the extreme consumption of alcohol. I previously stated here ton DU that I enjoy social drinking to an extent and in one cruise day I might have a total of 7 or 8 cocktails over an 18 hour day. (If you think that’s extreme, I understand and by the way, just so you know, I may have five alcohol-based drinks in a two week period normally, maybe not even that many.). Some people whom I observed had perhaps 25-30 drinks daily and were clearly severely impaired but “functional” in the sense that they could carry on a conversation and didn’t fall off the barstool. These are the folks who consume a fifth a day easily. Frightening. They go on cruises because one can purchase a plan with no limit relatively inexpensively. The list price for 20 drinks on the ship if you didn’t have the plan would be $300 assuming ordinary brands, not medium or top shelf daily. The package for 12 days which included five premium dinners at their specialty restaurants was $750. The dinners alone, if you went out to similar restaurants would be $400-500. I would say that I probably got $2000-2500 worth of “product” because you can ask for very good brands with no additional charge.

I mention these things because you will never ever hear anyone in media remark that the consumption of an addictive, mind-altering substance is measured locally by railroad tanker car volumes, and nationally by volumes which would be retained by the Hoover Dam. It is nearly incomprehensible but the only way you can really process the import of this aspect of our society is to be imprisoned with 4000 people on a ship. It is jaw-dropping. One full trailer of the 53 foot variety delivered with replacement liquor for each cruise when the ship returns to port.

And yes, we had a great time onboard and at the ports in the Eastern Carribbean and NOT ONE PERSON DISCUSSED ANYTHING POLITICAL (even when we saw the aircraft carrier Gerald R Ford anchored in St Thomas). It was great to take a breather from this nightmare in which we are living. Now it’s back to reality! 😢😢😢😢😢

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Interesting. Thanks. flying rabbit Dec 13 #1
It's been twenty years since I've been on a cruise. The number one reason is because I try to eat healthily. Intractable Dec 13 #2
Gluttony is among the seven deadly sins bucolic_frolic Dec 13 #3
Sounds like the movie Wall-e! Pucks mom Dec 13 #4
Right? Cosmocat Dec 13 #6
Welcome back! tavernier Dec 13 #5
There are gates and guards around the White House but they fail to contain the inmates. usonian Dec 13 #7
I'm glad you were able to get away from it all and enjoy the elements! Hope22 Dec 13 #8
As someone else remarked, it sounds like the movie Wall-E brought to life. GoneOffShore Dec 13 #9
That was very interesting NJCher Dec 13 #10
I love them PCIntern Dec 13 #11
I had to read this for a second time NJCher Dec 13 #12
Thx for sharing your rather depressing (but not surprising) NewHendoLib Dec 13 #13
Recommended movie: "Triangle of Sadness" jmbar2 Dec 13 #14
I'm gonna take a look but I'm gonna say PCIntern Dec 13 #15
My sister tried to talk me into a cruise awhile back... jmbar2 Dec 13 #16
I've never seen a brawl in many many cruises... PCIntern Dec 13 #21
Ok found it on Netflix and Prime. mountain grammy Dec 13 #47
The trailer is hilarious.. now I'm looking for it. Thanks. mountain grammy Dec 13 #44
i love cruising..we did Holland America as it was cozier and fewer kiddos samnsara Dec 13 #17
We've always traveled independently by train, then renting a car. surfered Dec 13 #18
Now that really appeals to me.. mountain grammy Dec 13 #48
What cruise line was this? Aristus Dec 13 #19
NCL... PCIntern Dec 13 #20
Thanks. Aristus Dec 13 #23
Glad you were able to escape and enjoy some politics-tree time!! Nittersing Dec 13 #22
Good writing! CommonHumanity Dec 13 #24
Thank you from my heart. PCIntern Dec 13 #40
I beg to differ CommonHumanity Dec 13 #51
Your observational humor is always treat to read. harumph Dec 13 #25
I have never been on a cruise, and never will be on one most probably, but to me, I don't have to go anywhere to be... NNadir Dec 13 #26
The only cruises I would be interested in are river cruises lonely bird Dec 13 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Ocelot II Dec 13 #28
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing. Auggie Dec 13 #29
That sounds like my idea of Hell, although the getting-away part is tempting. Ocelot II Dec 13 #30
That's exactly how I feel about cruises. llmart Dec 13 #37
Ditto! mountain grammy Dec 13 #49
That was interesting, eye-opening. Liberal In Texas Dec 13 #31
I was on the Norway in the 80's PCIntern Dec 13 #42
I've been on several cruises and haven't seen that many people on scooters. MIButterfly Dec 13 #32
Things sure have changed since TV' " Love Boat" style. FarPoint Dec 13 #33
Interesting post. I've never had a desire to take a cruise like the one you describe. Too many people. Vinca Dec 13 #34
Welcome back! karin_sj Dec 13 #35
Our last cruise was in April Mz Pip Dec 13 #36
Loved your report llmart Dec 13 #38
Welcome back to dry land and the shit that goes with it... ProudMNDemocrat Dec 13 #39
If you think that is bad, go on a swingers cruise! usedtobedemgurl Dec 13 #41
The first cruise I went on after Covid PCIntern Dec 13 #43
We took two sea voyages a while back with a European ship that was basicallly a a retofitted barge. The food was fresh CTyankee Dec 13 #45
Each cruise line has its own personality mainer Dec 13 #46
I've never taken a cruise and probably never will mountain grammy Dec 13 #50
Used to love crusing snowybirdie Dec 13 #52
I hope you had a chance to Avalon Sparks Dec 13 #53
Yes... PCIntern Dec 13 #54
I've never been on a cruise and don't intend to ever go on one.... Sogo Dec 13 #55
Well, that's certainly your prerogative PCIntern Dec 13 #56
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