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the 1st and 3rd guests you mentioned. Rogin could be worthwhile.
Oh well, his recent 'Real Times' have been really enjoyable. Looking back over the last five shows, his guests have included Dana Carvey (his impersonations were wonderful!), Gavin Newsom, David Sedaris, Gov. Josh Shapiro, Rahm Emanuel, Fareed Zakaria, Sam Stein, Ezra Klein, John McWhorter, Chrystia Freeland, and Jon Tester.
And of course the New Rules segment is always fun.
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