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Rafi

(265 posts)
44. A lot of uninformed, ignorant posts in this thread. My wife and i moved to Mexico in 2014. Long before Trump.
Wed Apr 9, 2025, 11:07 AM
Apr 2025

We have no kids and wanted to have an adventure in our retirement. I had lived out of the country three times in my life. I coached basketball teams in Belgium, Germany and Mexico and enjoyed my experience every time. We were married in Tuscany and loved italy...too far away. Other ex-pat spots Panama and Costa Rica...too hot and humid except high in the mountains and no golf courses up there.

I coached and played for the Charros de Jalisco in 1973 in Guadalajara... "La Pearla de Occidente" and it was back then. I was there six months and we traveled all over Mexico by bus and train. There were bandits in the countryside, but no cartels in those days. The Mexican that owned the team used to ask me to come with him on weekends to his place at the lake. It was a two hour drive and I didn't like him a lot, so I always politely declined. But, in 2013 I looked up lake Chapala near Guadalajara Mexico and found out it had become a large ex-pat community of Canadians, US Americans and some Europeans. Mexico has always received bad press from the US and I figured my wife would be apprehensive about moving there. I told her I had enjoyed the people, the climate and the relaxed way of life. I asked if she wanted to try a short vacation in Ajijic, the most popular village there for ex-pats. She said sure and we went for ten days. She loved it and when we returned we sold our house and moved within a year.

Lake Chapala is the largest natural lake in Mexico. It is in the mountains west of Guadalajara. there are many villages along the lake and there are estimates of 10,000 ex-pats here. Many are only here 4-6 months. You don't have to speak Spanish to get by, but why would you not learn the language of the place you're living? We live in the mountains outside Chapala, a nice town on the lake. We have three bedrooms, three baths, a pool and a view of the mountains and the lake. We have rented this house for nine years and pay $1,000 US a month. Our power bill is $70 a month water is from a well in our community. A good meal, with wine and desert varies between $35- $45. There are Mexican restaurants, Italian, Asian, Steak Houses and Seafood. I play golf, or go to the gym five days a week. My wife meets her friends every day in the village for lunch and they play cards and do whatever women do. I have missed six days playing golf due to bad weather in 10 years. The average year round temperature is around 71. The humidity is in the 20-30 range most days. We are at 5,000 feet elevation. The climate is rated among the best in the world. There is a rainy season from mid June to mid October, but it almost always rains in the evenings.

Yes there is crime. Mostly burglaries etc. There is some violent crime In Guadalajara, which is 45 minutes away. We walk the streets here at night without hesitation. There are many places in Mexico where the cartel is strong. But, the violence is almost always cartel vs cartel, or vs the military. Those places are well known and easily avoided. We have driven to the coast, 4-5 hours, several times with no problems. The Guad airport is 45 minutes and we can fly to Atlanta in three hours, or anywhere in the world. We feel much safer here than we did at night in Atlanta. I had a cabin in rural South Carolina for many years. In 2009 it was burglarized and set on fire. Shit happens everywhere.

Mexico, like every country, has problems. But, the people are gracious and fun loving. If you accept their culture they welcome you. They take care of their elders. We moved my wife's aunt here eight years ago. She was in an assisted living place in the US and it was very expensive and the care was spotty. The place she is in now is half the cost and much nicer. They treat her with respect.

So take your cheap shots, but we are never moving back to the US. I do care what happens to my country of origin and we still vote.

Te la vaya bien.

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8 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Cut and running is a personal choice. marble falls Apr 2025 #1
The BEST Pueblo Magico? 5 things to do in Pea de Bernal IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #3
Some Americans will have no choice. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #4
And then they made a personal decision: good, bad, indifferent. Nobody herded them onto the plane, boat ... marble falls Apr 2025 #50
No one blames Jews for escaping from Hitler and the Nazis. Irish_Dem Apr 2025 #67
They made a choice and cut and ran. I certainly have no problem with that choice. I may ... marble falls Apr 2025 #69
Quertaro_(city)...has 2 COSTCOs, 2 H.E.B. Grocery stores 😍 IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #5
Major corporations headquartered in Quertaro include..... IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #7
A lot of my ancestors cut and ran from their countries of origin. Mariana Apr 2025 #10
I have no regrets my folks made their personal decision. marble falls Apr 2025 #48
So did mine, on both sides. The Scots were often sent as indentured servants, too. mucholderthandirt Apr 2025 #77
Thankfully my relatives LEFT Ireland, LEFT Bohemia IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #12
Aren't you glad we have that right to make the personal decision to cut and run? ... marble falls Apr 2025 #51
I'm really a 'Canadian' IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #59
"Cut and run'? Really? EYESORE 9001 Apr 2025 #14
My Belgian family made the personal decision to cut and run in front of the German Army at ... marble falls Apr 2025 #53
All my immigrant ancestors did what was necessary EYESORE 9001 Apr 2025 #56
They made their own personal decision, as did my family. I would not have it any other way ... marble falls Apr 2025 #64
One that your ancestors chose to do as well, when they left for the US. Celerity Apr 2025 #18
You bet they did. Except for maybe one or two were who transported from England to VA as indentured servants. marble falls Apr 2025 #54
I bug my older sister w/ Irish transport to Australia IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #62
It's a great way to start a "tussle" on line! I've read of criminals who given a choice ... marble falls Apr 2025 #66
I'm staying here, Gordcanuck Apr 2025 #30
When I make that personal decision to choose to cut and run, I will head for Montreal. marble falls Apr 2025 #57
As is framing it as such. Torchlight Apr 2025 #46
It is what it is: a personal choice: good, bad, indifferent. marble falls Apr 2025 #47
On the other hand, the King is talking drone strikes on Mexico, so maybe not. Vinca Apr 2025 #2
We have family here; we will all go down together. dem4decades Apr 2025 #6
The more US citizens relocate to Mexico, the more prices, especially for housing, will skyrocket highplainsdem Apr 2025 #8
San Miguel de Allende already has LOTS of Gringos IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #11
I bought a house in Costa Rica and am trying to get packed for the international move. sinkingfeeling Apr 2025 #31
VERY important point. Not to mention restrictive laws on foreigners owning property or businesses. marble falls Apr 2025 #55
Sounds like a get rich quick scheme . . . Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #9
I have never been to Mexico. I have heard nothing but negative stories of Mexico doc03 Apr 2025 #13
LOL Kali Apr 2025 #16
Just sayen Mexico has always got bad doc03 Apr 2025 #23
How many random mass shootings do you hear about that happen in Mexico? Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #61
The US media LOVES to push negative Mexico 'news' propaganda IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #21
Its not just the news media. Look at the doc03 Apr 2025 #25
Movies are definitely an accurate portrayal. yardwork Apr 2025 #52
Jesus. That's some racist-adjacent reading right there. Mexicans are bandits in movies so you Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #35
Mexico has always been portrayed as being doc03 Apr 2025 #37
I used to walk down to Ciudad Juarez from my house. Did my shopping weekly Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #39
Ex-pats living in Mexico are more afraid of coming back to visit in USA IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #41
I didn't make any movies, tv shows or news doc03 Apr 2025 #49
You also "heard" that black folks are mostly on welfare over the years too. Do you repeat that shit too? Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #70
I don't make the sterotypes I haven't said doc03 Apr 2025 #74
It must be so difficult, being utterly powerless as you are to make any discernment Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #75
I don't have a lot of respect for people who leave the US and think it solves anything. valleyrogue Apr 2025 #15
So those who fled Nazi Germany should have stayed behind and gone to the camps? LS0999 Apr 2025 #24
Godwin's law makes an early appearance. writerJT Apr 2025 #34
Trans and trans adjacent folks and their families are not safe here Arazi Apr 2025 #71
Godwin's law was rendered moot when Trump defended Charlottesville. yardwork Apr 2025 #72
Lots of Americans leave USA to retire in Mexico, Costa Rica, Spain, Portugal etc IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #38
Interesting. Mariana Apr 2025 #42
I have a great respect for those leaving to retire for a better life IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #43
Have you completed you immigration paperwork? WhiteTara Apr 2025 #17
Don't Confuse the OP. MineralMan Apr 2025 #20
That's hilarious! WhiteTara Apr 2025 #28
People do take vacations, you know. Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #29
I have been to Mexico maybe 40+ times IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #40
Adios y buena suerte anciano Apr 2025 #19
Couple I know moved to Mexico Johnny2X2X Apr 2025 #22
Zihuatanejo IrishBubbaLiberal Apr 2025 #63
Adios nt Drum Apr 2025 #26
Spray-Tan-Saddam just made it to my top 5 Maru Kitteh Apr 2025 #27
Sounds interesting - I keep saying I want to get out of Texas and can't even do that.... walkingman Apr 2025 #32
I'm sticking right here for SPITE! Emile Apr 2025 #33
I was just watching "Crossing South" on PBS BigmanPigman Apr 2025 #36
A lot of uninformed, ignorant posts in this thread. My wife and i moved to Mexico in 2014. Long before Trump. Rafi Apr 2025 #44
Just moved there in February lotusblossom Apr 2025 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author Rafi Apr 2025 #58
C'mon down to open mic at La Bodega restaurant this afternoon 5-7. We'd enjoy meeting ya'll. My wife sings very well Rafi Apr 2025 #60
Someone I knew 60 years ago mnhtnbb Apr 2025 #68
Interesting. When are you leaving? Bonx Apr 2025 #65
Like a German Jew relocating to Poland in 1937? 0rganism Apr 2025 #73
It's not just the damage trump does. it's living in the US with all the racists, morons, religious nuts, gun nuts etc, Rafi Apr 2025 #76
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