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elocs

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32. The simple truth is that it is all over but for the shouting.
Tue Apr 8, 2025, 10:23 AM
Apr 2025

The time to have practically stopped Trump was to not elect him in the presidential election of '24, but I think that too many of us on the Left were not vigilant to protect our democracy from the right. We underestimated maga as being just a bunch of stolen election whiners when there really enough of them evil enough and intelligent enough to steal a nation and too many of us were complacent about their ability to pull it off. And all of this caused us to be overconfident concerning the dangers that Trump and maga posed for our country.
And now we are in the midst of Trump's shock and awe

Even if it were possible, Trump could never run in a legitimate 3rd term election because he will have alienated tens of millions of people who voted for him in '24. So, we will have a dictator in one way or another and we may well have elections in '26 but they won't be free and fair elections. As Stalin is quoted as saying, "Those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything."

I'm 72 and thought when I retired 10 years that I'd have a quiet and uneventful retirement, but that was not to be. I just learned today that the little girl next door will turn 3 tomorrow and she will grow up never knowing what America once was which will likely be easier for her compared to those of us who for all of their lives has known this as once a great, if imperfect nation that was admired by much or most of the world.

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The only way out is through. Americans need to suffer, and that means you and me. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #1
Sad but true. BigmanPigman Apr 2025 #2
+1 LiberalLoner Apr 2025 #9
Unfortunately that's the only way Horse with no Name Apr 2025 #7
It's like dealing with older children on an aggressive neuro- divergent spectrum .. haele Apr 2025 #27
Can I inquire flamingdem Apr 2025 #42
Sometimes. Sometimes not. haele Apr 2025 #47
Thanks! I just realized that I've dealt flamingdem Apr 2025 #53
Trump success means future Trump Clones/imitators. That should scare anyone. Red tie/ Blue coats lunkheads no-nothings RoeVWade Apr 2025 #30
Yes. That "schizophrenic" reaction to the horrible things he is doing while likewise hoping it reaches a level... hlthe2b Apr 2025 #3
I agree. The best I can hope for, personally, is for the pain to be temporary. And my mantra LiberalLoner Apr 2025 #10
I read a comment the past few days that he has an EO ready to sign to go after the guns. CrispyQ Apr 2025 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Rendville Apr 2025 #4
I hear you Tom Rinaldo Apr 2025 #5
This. I hate it, but this has to go really bad or we're doomed. Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #8
Sad, but true. Good read Tom! Ferrets are Cool Apr 2025 #11
It's called cognitive dissonance, Ferett SheltieLover Apr 2025 #6
Feel the same as you. But when considering the "pain" points, I'm convinced allegorical oracle Apr 2025 #12
this is the comment. bdamomma Apr 2025 #21
The enormous failure is coming whether we to or not bronxiteforever Apr 2025 #13
Billionaires are mortal too... hunter Apr 2025 #17
Some of the billionaires are going to court trying to stop the fool. appleannie1 Apr 2025 #34
I just want them to fail, with as little further destruction as possible. 58Sunliner Apr 2025 #14
The other partner countries kacekwl Apr 2025 #15
And our once bdamomma Apr 2025 #23
Every war has collateral damage. Some times there is pain before healing can begin. Hotler Apr 2025 #16
Agree! The problem as i see it will be bluestarone Apr 2025 #19
It's our time. Most Americans have rarely known the real hardship that most of the world endures. johnnyplankton Apr 2025 #18
Exactly bdamomma Apr 2025 #24
It's an internal struggle for me too, but maga & low-info types need a sharp shock to shake them loose Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #22
Not only that radical noodle Apr 2025 #25
You know, I was in a class the other day ismnotwasm Apr 2025 #26
I start to feel better when I see some of our elected officials fight back. The "shadow hearings" are a start! usaf-vet Apr 2025 #28
Watching people embrace their inner Sarandon Sympthsical Apr 2025 #29
Then, understand this. OldBaldy1701E Apr 2025 #31
"Any suffering is caused by one's involvement with the status quo." stopdiggin Apr 2025 #37
"Is frankly just that - a poetic fantasy" OldBaldy1701E Apr 2025 #60
it is/was the "Any suffering is caused by one's involvement with the status quo." stopdiggin Apr 2025 #61
My apologies for the delay in responding to your post. OldBaldy1701E Apr 2025 #62
The simple truth is that it is all over but for the shouting. elocs Apr 2025 #32
Interesting that you blame the left Hope22 Apr 2025 #38
I don't blame the Left but there is blame for the Left. The GOP, the right, maga are what they are. elocs Apr 2025 #41
If anything we failed to see the media working 24/7 against us. Hope22 Apr 2025 #44
Your comment is put before a jury that you know nothing about until they hand down to you a guilty verdict when you knew elocs Apr 2025 #46
We will make it through and it certainly will not be a walk in the park. appleannie1 Apr 2025 #33
You're a better person than I am. Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #35
I completely understand Ferrets are Cool Apr 2025 #40
Your problem will solve itself in pulses. NNadir Apr 2025 #36
The question is swong19104 Apr 2025 #39
I admire your magnanimity. DFW Apr 2025 #43
I, honestly, agree with you. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2025 #45
Ah, OK. You scared me for a moment. DFW Apr 2025 #48
As someone who never got out of the Bush recession, GoCubsGo Apr 2025 #49
yes Skittles Apr 2025 #55
Even if by some magic he doesn't devastate the world economy... pat_k Apr 2025 #50
When we win. usonian Apr 2025 #51
"The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." - Kosh (Babylon 5) ThoughtCriminal Apr 2025 #52
I hear you Skittles Apr 2025 #54
Me too Ferrets are Cool Apr 2025 #56
If I ForgedCrank Apr 2025 #57
Agreed. I'm a Democrat because it aligns with my own standards of morality and humanism - I'm certainly not going to Midwestern Democrat Apr 2025 #63
The problem is that they will never learn Blaukraut Apr 2025 #58
Republicans must come to their senses before it's too late. Emile Apr 2025 #59
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