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115. Democrats and 'progressives' are often viewed as interconnected or aligned in many contexts *

Tue Jan 14, 2025, 09:02 AM

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Democrats and 'progressives' are often viewed as interconnected or aligned in many contexts. These terms are closely intertwined or aligned within the political landscape. While Democrats constitute a political party with a broad spectrum of ideologies and members, 'progressives' typically represent a subset within the party.

I can assure you that the "progressive" politics of Vermont will not win elections in the midwest. Democrats are NOT a homogeneous group or political party. Blaming our party's shortcomings and failures on the ineffectiveness of "progressives" to rule the roost is a mistake. Blaming it on the age of our experienced politicians and statesmen/women is also a mistake.

It takes a village. The "progressive" wing of the Democratic party is not going to "take over" the party and they're not going to be gifted positions which they have not earned. If it were a homogeneous Vermont-style political party, we would lose even more elections. That's not what you want, is it?

>> Seems to me we've damaged ourselves pretty badly internally.
Gee. Then why support someone who's only going to create more division? Weird, that.

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Tim Walz backs David Hogg for DNC vice chair [View all] Polybius Monday OP

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Do you have a link for that claim? intheflow Monday #3

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My guess is if Walz is endorsing him, intheflow Monday #30

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Yes you could be right about that 😁 Meowmee Monday #100

Why did you delete all of your posts in this thread? Polybius 23 hrs ago #105

Hillary Clinton's parents were Republicans and she supported Goldwater karynnj Monday #34

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Yes you are probably right, I have deleted most of my replies here... carry on😁 Meowmee Monday #102

David Hogg's experience wnylib Monday #40

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He certainly has done a lot 👏🏻 Meowmee Monday #101

He was a high school student at the time. Cuthbert Allgood Monday #75

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You should delete your admittedly unfounded smear and stick to the facts about Maru Kitteh Monday #90

He was a minor at the time of the shooting, so how is that relevant? Mariana Monday #96

I don't know about his former party affiliations MadameButterfly Monday #4

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He was at the Dem convention. A Dem governor, who ran for VP wnylib Monday #41

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At the time of the massacre, he didn't have any "former party affiliations". Mariana Monday #97

This from folks who welcomed Manchin and Fetterman malaise Monday #22

Is this "criticism" addressed to me? Meowmee Monday #24

No malaise Monday #25

I have never heard this, but he's young and has been solidly liberal for years Polybius Monday #46

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Some people are forced to grow up fast. Delmette2.0 Yesterday #103

We fucking need someone with a track record of leadership and building coalitions. Not nearly fucking enough experience SoFlaBro Monday #2

I believe David Hogg has built some coalitions MadameButterfly Monday #5

I concur. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Monday #7

I agree! We lifelong (D) need to turn leadership over to the next generation.They are going to live in the..... usaf-vet Monday #13

yes, please give it to the kids who will inherit climate change frome us MadameButterfly Monday #15

LOL! He's no Kennedy, Lincoln or Obama. Oopsie Daisy Monday #82

My point is that if we make length of experience the only measure MadameButterfly Monday #91

Lincoln, Kennedy, and Obama were all 20 years older than Hogg MichMan Monday #94

The kid's been really busy... littlemissmartypants Monday #6

This is the Vice Position . JI7 Monday #9

No you need some fresh young folks malaise Monday #12

We tried that "track-record" garbage, we need people with strong progressive instincts,... Think. Again. Monday #17

He is after all not running for chair karynnj Monday #35

I heard that same argument against Barack Obama in 2008. wnylib Monday #42

But if Hillary had won that nomination, things would likely have gone like this: Polybius Monday #50

Are you Carnac the Magnificent? Nostradamus reincarnated? wnylib Monday #52

I don't know how the 2012 election would have went, but I feel strongly about the 2008 one Polybius Monday #61

Only once in the last 75 years has the same party won three elections in a row MichMan Monday #93

CW was she would pick Evan Bayh, not Obama karynnj Monday #58

I think she may have lost in 2012 to Romney Polybius Monday #63

Yes, either way we would have avoided Trump. JI7 19 hrs ago #106

K&R TheProle Monday #83

It's time to shed some of the old school, status quo "leadership" and coalition building lees1975 Monday #66

So, what is your proposed minimum age Bettie 14 hrs ago #118

Vice chair, sounds like a great opportunity for him to learn and grow JoseBalow Monday #8

David is bright and young. Dave Id Monday #10

Six year terms is seen as a way to retire a millionaire. Many stop doing what was best... usaf-vet Monday #14

Agreed Rebl2 Monday #39

If you say so. Littlered Monday #31

What interview was that? When and where? wnylib Monday #43

I've been trying to remember. Littlered 16 hrs ago #112

I found him quite impressive and full of great ideas in a recent MSNBC interview. summer_in_TX 23 hrs ago #104

Yeeees malaise Monday #11

Love Tim Walz! BlueMTexpat Monday #16

Hogg is running for the VICE chair position. Think. Again. Monday #18

Thanks for the correction! BlueMTexpat Monday #37

Hogg is NOT running against O'Malley. He is running for wnylib Monday #44

Thanks! BlueMTexpat 18 hrs ago #107

A resounding Yes! to David Hogg for Vice Chair... Think. Again. Monday #19

Excellent choice! ThePartyThatListens Monday #21

For Vice Chair... DemMedic Monday #26

I think that would be a good choice. We definitely need some fresh blood in the pipeline. He's been an Vinca Monday #27

I think David is amazing. He did the March for your Lives and tried to get better gun control. TommieMommy Monday #28

No way. Someone with relevant experience needs to be in that role. Have him in a junior role to learn. themaguffin Monday #29

He IS running for a junior role, as vice chair, not as chair.. wnylib Monday #45

No a sunior role, not a "chair" role. themaguffin Monday #53

What I know is that vice chair is below the rank of chair. wnylib Monday #59

Yes, but in an organization, that's not what a junior role is. You're speaking in relative terms, I'm referring to its themaguffin Monday #60

there will be 3 Vice-Chairs Celerity Monday #64

Ok and non are junior positions. themaguffin Monday #65

Vice Chair *is* a junior role. He's not running for Chair. Ocelot II Monday #54

I know that & "vice" is only "junior" to the chair." He needs a junior role. I assumed wrong that people knew what that themaguffin Monday #55

Absolutely not. He lacks the experience and temperament needed for the job. Oopsie Daisy Monday #32

Say what? You and I have apparently been listening to and watching wnylib Monday #49

Vice-Chair is not the place to start his "mentoring" project or as a place for OJT and skill-honing. Oopsie Daisy Monday #57

Three of the following candidates will be chosen as a Vice Chair: Joe Barbuto, Artie Blanco, Waikinya Clanton, Shasti Celerity Monday #33

From this group I'd be happy for 3 to be from Nanjeanne Monday #62

I would support David Hogg for a position within the Party. kentuck Monday #36

Good move pinkstarburst Monday #38

That would be a gold mine for repub strategists in battleground and near-battleground states. nt LexVegas Monday #47

Oh, you mean they'd say that Dems are coming for their guns? Cuthbert Allgood Monday #76

I wouldn't trust a 24 year old Mountainguy Monday #48

Thank you. Oopsie Daisy Monday #67

Well, we do have a 74-year-old undergoing treatment for esophageal cancer but he's otherwise occupied nt Rob H. Monday #70

He could learn a lot Kali999 Monday #51

I think it is important that the Democratic Party become more progressive. We have walkingman Monday #56

Please. I'm not buying those statistics. Oopsie Daisy Monday #68

I don't disagree with you at all, but what will it take to get those people you describe to the polls? walkingman Monday #72

Our party is not "plenty progressive." intheflow 17 hrs ago #109

Ah, yes... ageism and "Blame Democrats First". Burn it down, eh? That'll fix everything, won't it? Oopsie Daisy 16 hrs ago #110

That's not what I said at all. intheflow 16 hrs ago #111

Age is just a number, I'm sure you know that. It's experience and intent that matters. Oopsie Daisy 15 hrs ago #114

Why do people assume the Democratic Party is majority ancient conservative straight white men? betsuni Monday #69

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Back again???? GP6971 Monday #74

And? BTW: what's your favorite pizza? marble falls Monday #78

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That's obvious...what's this...your second or third pizza today? GP6971 Monday #80

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Yeah, you do. mercuryblues Monday #84

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bye bye pizza is all gone KS Toronado 14 hrs ago #120

It's wild that "Don't trust anyone over 30" has morphed into "Don't trust anyone under 60." nt Rob H. Monday #71

No, what's "really wild" is how people are ignoring his offensive and grating temperament and his * Oopsie Daisy 17 hrs ago #108

Seems to me we've damaged ourselves pretty badly internally. intheflow 16 hrs ago #113

Democrats and 'progressives' are often viewed as interconnected or aligned in many contexts * Oopsie Daisy 15 hrs ago #115

Party over country. intheflow 15 hrs ago #116

Really? Interesting. That tells me a lot. Oopsie Daisy 14 hrs ago #119

The last three Presidential elections have seen septua- and octogenarians Rob H. 11 hrs ago #121

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Democrat Party? MarineCombatEngineer Monday #85

Is he any relation to Boss? Seasider Monday #95

Completely J-9 Monday #99