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Polybius

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50. But if Hillary had won that nomination, things would likely have gone like this:

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 01:10 PM

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2008: Easy win for Hillary
2012: Probable win for re-election
2016: VP Obama wins the election
2020: Obama wins re-election
2024: Probably a Republican finally wins again, but not Trump

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Tim Walz backs David Hogg for DNC vice chair [View all] Polybius Yesterday OP

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Do you have a link for that claim? intheflow Yesterday #3

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My guess is if Walz is endorsing him, intheflow 21 hrs ago #30

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Yes you could be right about that 😁 Meowmee 7 hrs ago #100

Why did you delete all of your posts in this thread? Polybius 4 hrs ago #105

Hillary Clinton's parents were Republicans and she supported Goldwater karynnj 20 hrs ago #34

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Yes you are probably right, I have deleted most of my replies here... carry on😁 Meowmee 7 hrs ago #102

David Hogg's experience wnylib 19 hrs ago #40

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He certainly has done a lot 👏🏻 Meowmee 7 hrs ago #101

He was a high school student at the time. Cuthbert Allgood 10 hrs ago #75

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You should delete your admittedly unfounded smear and stick to the facts about Maru Kitteh 9 hrs ago #90

He was a minor at the time of the shooting, so how is that relevant? Mariana 8 hrs ago #96

I don't know about his former party affiliations MadameButterfly Yesterday #4

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He was at the Dem convention. A Dem governor, who ran for VP wnylib 19 hrs ago #41

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At the time of the massacre, he didn't have any "former party affiliations". Mariana 8 hrs ago #97

This from folks who welcomed Manchin and Fetterman malaise 23 hrs ago #22

Is this "criticism" addressed to me? Meowmee 23 hrs ago #24

No malaise 23 hrs ago #25

I have never heard this, but he's young and has been solidly liberal for years Polybius 18 hrs ago #46

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Some people are forced to grow up fast. Delmette2.0 5 hrs ago #103

We fucking need someone with a track record of leadership and building coalitions. Not nearly fucking enough experience SoFlaBro Yesterday #2

I believe David Hogg has built some coalitions MadameButterfly Yesterday #5

I concur. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Yesterday #7

I agree! We lifelong (D) need to turn leadership over to the next generation.They are going to live in the..... usaf-vet Yesterday #13

yes, please give it to the kids who will inherit climate change frome us MadameButterfly Yesterday #15

LOL! He's no Kennedy, Lincoln or Obama. Oopsie Daisy 10 hrs ago #82

My point is that if we make length of experience the only measure MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #91

Lincoln, Kennedy, and Obama were all 20 years older than Hogg MichMan 8 hrs ago #94

The kid's been really busy... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #6

This is the Vice Position . JI7 Yesterday #9

No you need some fresh young folks malaise Yesterday #12

We tried that "track-record" garbage, we need people with strong progressive instincts,... Think. Again. Yesterday #17

He is after all not running for chair karynnj 20 hrs ago #35

I heard that same argument against Barack Obama in 2008. wnylib 18 hrs ago #42

But if Hillary had won that nomination, things would likely have gone like this: Polybius 17 hrs ago #50

Are you Carnac the Magnificent? Nostradamus reincarnated? wnylib 16 hrs ago #52

I don't know how the 2012 election would have went, but I feel strongly about the 2008 one Polybius 16 hrs ago #61

Only once in the last 75 years has the same party won three elections in a row MichMan 9 hrs ago #93

CW was she would pick Evan Bayh, not Obama karynnj 16 hrs ago #58

I think she may have lost in 2012 to Romney Polybius 16 hrs ago #63

Yes, either way we would have avoided Trump. JI7 1 hr ago #106

K&R TheProle 10 hrs ago #83

It's time to shed some of the old school, status quo "leadership" and coalition building lees1975 15 hrs ago #66

Vice chair, sounds like a great opportunity for him to learn and grow JoseBalow Yesterday #8

David is bright and young. Dave Id Yesterday #10

Six year terms is seen as a way to retire a millionaire. Many stop doing what was best... usaf-vet Yesterday #14

Agreed Rebl2 19 hrs ago #39

If you say so. Littlered 21 hrs ago #31

What interview was that? When and where? wnylib 18 hrs ago #43

I found him quite impressive and full of great ideas in a recent MSNBC interview. summer_in_TX 5 hrs ago #104

Yeeees malaise Yesterday #11

Love Tim Walz! BlueMTexpat Yesterday #16

Hogg is running for the VICE chair position. Think. Again. Yesterday #18

Thanks for the correction! BlueMTexpat 20 hrs ago #37

Hogg is NOT running against O'Malley. He is running for wnylib 18 hrs ago #44

Thanks! BlueMTexpat 15 min ago #107

A resounding Yes! to David Hogg for Vice Chair... Think. Again. Yesterday #19

Excellent choice! ThePartyThatListens Yesterday #21

For Vice Chair... DemMedic 23 hrs ago #26

I think that would be a good choice. We definitely need some fresh blood in the pipeline. He's been an Vinca 22 hrs ago #27

I think David is amazing. He did the March for your Lives and tried to get better gun control. TommieMommy 22 hrs ago #28

No way. Someone with relevant experience needs to be in that role. Have him in a junior role to learn. themaguffin 21 hrs ago #29

He IS running for a junior role, as vice chair, not as chair.. wnylib 18 hrs ago #45

No a sunior role, not a "chair" role. themaguffin 16 hrs ago #53

What I know is that vice chair is below the rank of chair. wnylib 16 hrs ago #59

Yes, but in an organization, that's not what a junior role is. You're speaking in relative terms, I'm referring to its themaguffin 16 hrs ago #60

there will be 3 Vice-Chairs Celerity 16 hrs ago #64

Ok and non are junior positions. themaguffin 15 hrs ago #65

Vice Chair *is* a junior role. He's not running for Chair. Ocelot II 16 hrs ago #54

I know that & "vice" is only "junior" to the chair." He needs a junior role. I assumed wrong that people knew what that themaguffin 16 hrs ago #55

Absolutely not. He lacks the experience and temperament needed for the job. Oopsie Daisy 21 hrs ago #32

Say what? You and I have apparently been listening to and watching wnylib 18 hrs ago #49

Vice-Chair is not the place to start his "mentoring" project or as a place for OJT and skill-honing. Oopsie Daisy 16 hrs ago #57

Three of the following candidates will be chosen as a Vice Chair: Joe Barbuto, Artie Blanco, Waikinya Clanton, Shasti Celerity 21 hrs ago #33

From this group I'd be happy for 3 to be from Nanjeanne 16 hrs ago #62

I would support David Hogg for a position within the Party. kentuck 20 hrs ago #36

Good move pinkstarburst 19 hrs ago #38

That would be a gold mine for repub strategists in battleground and near-battleground states. nt LexVegas 18 hrs ago #47

Oh, you mean they'd say that Dems are coming for their guns? Cuthbert Allgood 10 hrs ago #76

I wouldn't trust a 24 year old Mountainguy 18 hrs ago #48

Thank you. Oopsie Daisy 13 hrs ago #67

Well, we do have a 74-year-old undergoing treatment for esophageal cancer but he's otherwise occupied nt Rob H. 11 hrs ago #70

He could learn a lot Kali999 17 hrs ago #51

I think it is important that the Democratic Party become more progressive. We have walkingman 16 hrs ago #56

Please. I'm not buying those statistics. Oopsie Daisy 12 hrs ago #68

I don't disagree with you at all, but what will it take to get those people you describe to the polls? walkingman 10 hrs ago #72

Why do people assume the Democratic Party is majority ancient conservative straight white men? betsuni 12 hrs ago #69

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Back again???? GP6971 10 hrs ago #74

And? BTW: what's your favorite pizza? marble falls 10 hrs ago #78

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That's obvious...what's this...your second or third pizza today? GP6971 10 hrs ago #80

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Yeah, you do. mercuryblues 10 hrs ago #84

It's wild that "Don't trust anyone over 30" has morphed into "Don't trust anyone under 60." nt Rob H. 11 hrs ago #71

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Democrat Party? MarineCombatEngineer 9 hrs ago #85

Is he any relation to Boss? Seasider 8 hrs ago #95

Completely J-9 7 hrs ago #99