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wnylib

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42. I heard that same argument against Barack Obama in 2008.

Mon Jan 13, 2025, 11:50 AM

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Fortunately, the party leaders who endorsed him (Ted Kennedy) and the people who voted for him were able to recognize and embrace his talent, ability, and leadership.

Hogg is not running for President of the US. He is not running for the top leadership position in the Dem party. He is running for a secondary position where he can contribute his intelligence, communications skills and contacts, and ability to recruit younger people while simultaneously gaining more experience.

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Tim Walz backs David Hogg for DNC vice chair [View all] Polybius Yesterday OP

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Do you have a link for that claim? intheflow Yesterday #3

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My guess is if Walz is endorsing him, intheflow 21 hrs ago #30

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Yes you could be right about that 😁 Meowmee 7 hrs ago #100

Why did you delete all of your posts in this thread? Polybius 4 hrs ago #105

Hillary Clinton's parents were Republicans and she supported Goldwater karynnj 20 hrs ago #34

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Yes you are probably right, I have deleted most of my replies here... carry on😁 Meowmee 7 hrs ago #102

David Hogg's experience wnylib 19 hrs ago #40

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He certainly has done a lot 👏🏻 Meowmee 7 hrs ago #101

He was a high school student at the time. Cuthbert Allgood 10 hrs ago #75

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You should delete your admittedly unfounded smear and stick to the facts about Maru Kitteh 9 hrs ago #90

He was a minor at the time of the shooting, so how is that relevant? Mariana 8 hrs ago #96

I don't know about his former party affiliations MadameButterfly Yesterday #4

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He was at the Dem convention. A Dem governor, who ran for VP wnylib 19 hrs ago #41

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At the time of the massacre, he didn't have any "former party affiliations". Mariana 8 hrs ago #97

This from folks who welcomed Manchin and Fetterman malaise 23 hrs ago #22

Is this "criticism" addressed to me? Meowmee 23 hrs ago #24

No malaise 23 hrs ago #25

I have never heard this, but he's young and has been solidly liberal for years Polybius 18 hrs ago #46

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Some people are forced to grow up fast. Delmette2.0 6 hrs ago #103

We fucking need someone with a track record of leadership and building coalitions. Not nearly fucking enough experience SoFlaBro Yesterday #2

I believe David Hogg has built some coalitions MadameButterfly Yesterday #5

I concur. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Yesterday #7

I agree! We lifelong (D) need to turn leadership over to the next generation.They are going to live in the..... usaf-vet Yesterday #13

yes, please give it to the kids who will inherit climate change frome us MadameButterfly Yesterday #15

LOL! He's no Kennedy, Lincoln or Obama. Oopsie Daisy 10 hrs ago #82

My point is that if we make length of experience the only measure MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #91

Lincoln, Kennedy, and Obama were all 20 years older than Hogg MichMan 8 hrs ago #94

The kid's been really busy... littlemissmartypants Yesterday #6

This is the Vice Position . JI7 Yesterday #9

No you need some fresh young folks malaise Yesterday #12

We tried that "track-record" garbage, we need people with strong progressive instincts,... Think. Again. Yesterday #17

He is after all not running for chair karynnj 20 hrs ago #35

I heard that same argument against Barack Obama in 2008. wnylib 18 hrs ago #42

But if Hillary had won that nomination, things would likely have gone like this: Polybius 17 hrs ago #50

Are you Carnac the Magnificent? Nostradamus reincarnated? wnylib 16 hrs ago #52

I don't know how the 2012 election would have went, but I feel strongly about the 2008 one Polybius 16 hrs ago #61

Only once in the last 75 years has the same party won three elections in a row MichMan 9 hrs ago #93

CW was she would pick Evan Bayh, not Obama karynnj 16 hrs ago #58

I think she may have lost in 2012 to Romney Polybius 16 hrs ago #63

Yes, either way we would have avoided Trump. JI7 1 hr ago #106

K&R TheProle 10 hrs ago #83

It's time to shed some of the old school, status quo "leadership" and coalition building lees1975 15 hrs ago #66

Vice chair, sounds like a great opportunity for him to learn and grow JoseBalow Yesterday #8

David is bright and young. Dave Id Yesterday #10

Six year terms is seen as a way to retire a millionaire. Many stop doing what was best... usaf-vet Yesterday #14

Agreed Rebl2 19 hrs ago #39

If you say so. Littlered 21 hrs ago #31

What interview was that? When and where? wnylib 18 hrs ago #43

I found him quite impressive and full of great ideas in a recent MSNBC interview. summer_in_TX 5 hrs ago #104

Yeeees malaise Yesterday #11

Love Tim Walz! BlueMTexpat Yesterday #16

Hogg is running for the VICE chair position. Think. Again. Yesterday #18

Thanks for the correction! BlueMTexpat 20 hrs ago #37

Hogg is NOT running against O'Malley. He is running for wnylib 18 hrs ago #44

Thanks! BlueMTexpat 17 min ago #107

A resounding Yes! to David Hogg for Vice Chair... Think. Again. Yesterday #19

Excellent choice! ThePartyThatListens Yesterday #21

For Vice Chair... DemMedic 23 hrs ago #26

I think that would be a good choice. We definitely need some fresh blood in the pipeline. He's been an Vinca 22 hrs ago #27

I think David is amazing. He did the March for your Lives and tried to get better gun control. TommieMommy 22 hrs ago #28

No way. Someone with relevant experience needs to be in that role. Have him in a junior role to learn. themaguffin 21 hrs ago #29

He IS running for a junior role, as vice chair, not as chair.. wnylib 18 hrs ago #45

No a sunior role, not a "chair" role. themaguffin 16 hrs ago #53

What I know is that vice chair is below the rank of chair. wnylib 16 hrs ago #59

Yes, but in an organization, that's not what a junior role is. You're speaking in relative terms, I'm referring to its themaguffin 16 hrs ago #60

there will be 3 Vice-Chairs Celerity 16 hrs ago #64

Ok and non are junior positions. themaguffin 15 hrs ago #65

Vice Chair *is* a junior role. He's not running for Chair. Ocelot II 16 hrs ago #54

I know that & "vice" is only "junior" to the chair." He needs a junior role. I assumed wrong that people knew what that themaguffin 16 hrs ago #55

Absolutely not. He lacks the experience and temperament needed for the job. Oopsie Daisy 21 hrs ago #32

Say what? You and I have apparently been listening to and watching wnylib 18 hrs ago #49

Vice-Chair is not the place to start his "mentoring" project or as a place for OJT and skill-honing. Oopsie Daisy 16 hrs ago #57

Three of the following candidates will be chosen as a Vice Chair: Joe Barbuto, Artie Blanco, Waikinya Clanton, Shasti Celerity 21 hrs ago #33

From this group I'd be happy for 3 to be from Nanjeanne 16 hrs ago #62

I would support David Hogg for a position within the Party. kentuck 20 hrs ago #36

Good move pinkstarburst 19 hrs ago #38

That would be a gold mine for repub strategists in battleground and near-battleground states. nt LexVegas 18 hrs ago #47

Oh, you mean they'd say that Dems are coming for their guns? Cuthbert Allgood 10 hrs ago #76

I wouldn't trust a 24 year old Mountainguy 18 hrs ago #48

Thank you. Oopsie Daisy 13 hrs ago #67

Well, we do have a 74-year-old undergoing treatment for esophageal cancer but he's otherwise occupied nt Rob H. 12 hrs ago #70

He could learn a lot Kali999 17 hrs ago #51

I think it is important that the Democratic Party become more progressive. We have walkingman 16 hrs ago #56

Please. I'm not buying those statistics. Oopsie Daisy 12 hrs ago #68

I don't disagree with you at all, but what will it take to get those people you describe to the polls? walkingman 10 hrs ago #72

Why do people assume the Democratic Party is majority ancient conservative straight white men? betsuni 12 hrs ago #69

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Back again???? GP6971 10 hrs ago #74

And? BTW: what's your favorite pizza? marble falls 10 hrs ago #78

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That's obvious...what's this...your second or third pizza today? GP6971 10 hrs ago #80

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Yeah, you do. mercuryblues 10 hrs ago #84

It's wild that "Don't trust anyone over 30" has morphed into "Don't trust anyone under 60." nt Rob H. 11 hrs ago #71

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Democrat Party? MarineCombatEngineer 9 hrs ago #85

Is he any relation to Boss? Seasider 8 hrs ago #95

Completely J-9 7 hrs ago #99