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eppur_se_muova

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19. Why anyone would think pasteurized milk is less healthy is beyond me.
Sun Jan 12, 2025, 01:46 PM
6 hrs ago

The pasteurization process is very mild -- heating to 60 C for a few minutes -- and has minimal effect on taste, texture, and nutrition, but is sufficient to kill or deactivate bacteria, as well as some enzymes which also contribute to spoilage.

Frankly, it's magical thinking, or at least magical-adjacent. Continued belief that anything humans do is "unnatural", hence bad for you, with a little CT thrown in ("They only want you to believe it's safe!" ).

The obvious counterargument is actual, factual data, including epidemiological data, but that involves an absolutely minimal appreciation of statistical arguments, which is just too much for ill-educated Americans. Nonetheless, here's some data:

Milk is an excellent medium for microbial growth,[18] and when it is stored at ambient temperature, bacteria and other pathogens soon proliferate.[19] The US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) says improperly handled raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other food-borne disease source, making it one of the world's most dangerous food products.[20][21] Diseases prevented by pasteurization can include tuberculosis, brucellosis, diphtheria, scarlet fever, and Q-fever; it also kills the harmful bacteria Salmonella, Listeria, Yersinia, Campylobacter, Staphylococcus aureus, and Escherichia coli O157:H7,[22][23] among others.

Prior to industrialization, dairy cows were kept in urban areas to limit the time between milk production and consumption, hence the risk of disease transmission via raw milk was reduced.[24] As urban densities increased and supply chains lengthened to the distance from country to city, raw milk (often days old) became recognized as a source of disease. For example, between 1912 and 1937, some 65,000 people died of tuberculosis contracted from consuming milk in England and Wales alone.[25] Because tuberculosis has a long incubation period in humans, it was difficult to link unpasteurized milk consumption with the disease.[26] In 1892, chemist Ernst Lederle experimentally inoculated milk from tuberculosis-diseased cows into guinea pigs, which caused them to develop the disease.[27] In 1910, Lederle, then in the role of Commissioner of Health, introduced mandatory pasteurization of milk in New York City.[27]

Developed countries adopted milk pasteurization to prevent such disease and loss of life, and as a result milk is now considered a safer food.[28] ... Pasteurization of milk was suggested by Franz von Soxhlet in 1886.[30] In the early 20th century, Milton Joseph Rosenau established the standards – i.e. low-temperature, slow heating at 60 °C (140 °F) for 20 minutes – for the pasteurization of milk[31][32] while at the United States Marine Hospital Service, notably in his publication of The Milk Question (1912).[33] States in the U.S. soon began enacting mandatory dairy pasteurization laws, with the first in 1947, and in 1973 the U.S. federal government required pasteurization of milk used in any interstate commerce.[34]

The shelf life of refrigerated pasteurized milk is greater than that of raw milk. For example, high-temperature, short-time (HTST) pasteurized milk typically has a refrigerated shelf life of two to three weeks, whereas ultra-pasteurized milk can last much longer, sometimes two to three months. When ultra-heat treatment (UHT) is combined with sterile handling and container technology (such as aseptic packaging), it can even be stored non-refrigerated for up to 9 months.[35]

According to the Centers for Disease Control, between 1998 and 2011, 79% of dairy-related disease outbreaks in the United States were due to raw milk or cheese products.[36] They report 148 outbreaks and 2,384 illnesses (with 284 requiring hospitalization), as well as two deaths due to raw milk or cheese products during the same time period.[36]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pasteurization#Milk

It's not like this information is secret, hidden, or hard to find. But some people get a thrill out of believing that they're clever enough to see through some non-existent conspiracy intended to -- to do what ? Charge a little more for milk ? I strongly suspect the advocates of raw milk pay more for their magical elixir, which should tell you right there where the real conspiracy is.

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I'm a dog person, but I was always under the impression phylny 9 hrs ago #1
Not all cats- some can drink it. My Sib ate ice cream & my floof loves yogurt Meowmee 9 hrs ago #3
Newborn or very young kittens are lactose intolerant malaise 9 hrs ago #4
Exactly right. n/t elocs 6 hrs ago #21
Tragic 💔 Meowmee 9 hrs ago #2
In case of raw meat, some people feed their cats raw meat thinking it is very healthy for them. LisaL 7 hrs ago #17
Yes I know Meowmee 6 hrs ago #20
Don't Marge Taylor Goone and RFK Jr. push the benefits of drinking raw milk? Diamond_Dog 9 hrs ago #5
Yes, RFKjr pushes raw milk benefits, LisaL 7 hrs ago #16
Post removed Post removed 9 hrs ago #6
Good Morning!! Your pizza order is ready...Enjoy!! GP6971 9 hrs ago #7
Too late 😹 Meowmee 9 hrs ago #10
It just occurred to me that I haven't seen Tombstone brand frozen pizza for awhile now EYESORE 9001 7 hrs ago #15
Enjoy your stay Bettie 9 hrs ago #8
I drank raw milk DeepWinter 9 hrs ago #9
A lot of people take food risks Ms. Toad 7 hrs ago #14
I did too. It was goat milk. LisaL 7 hrs ago #18
So sad. Bad enough that they died, but knowing what you fed them killed them, is heartbreaking. Fla Dem 9 hrs ago #11
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes 😔 Blue_Tires 9 hrs ago #12
I feel really badly for the cats. Happy Hoosier 8 hrs ago #13
Why anyone would think pasteurized milk is less healthy is beyond me. eppur_se_muova 6 hrs ago #19
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