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In reply to the discussion: I called my financial advisor yesterday. [View all]Bernardo de La Paz
(60,320 posts)11. "tariffs inflationary and increase interest rates" ... Until they don't
Yes, initially, I think you are right. Tariffs mean higher prices. But that leads to lower unit volume because wages are slow to catch up to inflation and fixed income folk have less choice. Lower unit volume means less labour is required. Plus retaliatory tariffs reduce exports and that means layoffs.
So after a bit, I think there will be a recession. And the stock market is two years into a bull, which is longer than median, I think. Three year bull markets are not unheard of but rare.
The Fed will lower interest rates to stimulate the economy, which will help the economy but will impress the stock market less than some expect. That's because there will be lower demand, fewer sales, etc. tRump will send out stimulus checks with his name on them, which will help the economy, but not help the deficit. This may be happening while Muck is busy pushing spending cuts. Spending cuts mean either less money going to people or government layoffs or a combination.
Labour markets will be full of turmoil if there are deportations at the same time as layoffs. Not many laid off maga will pick an immigrant's basket and pick strawberries. So there will be simultaneous labour shortages and unemployment.
I went to 85% bonds, 15% money market to try to preserve capital and anticipating the Fed will in a little while cut rates, perhaps after raising them a bit against inflation. I'm hoping there might be buying opportunities for stocks in 2026 or not long after, but I have no crystal ball, only seat of the pants reckoning.
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"tariffs inflationary and increase interest rates" ... Until they don't
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#11
Agree. When we see deflationary pressure, I will begin going to longer maturities
surfered
Jan 2025
#15
Unless trump can convince his wealthy backers that the USA will be much better off in 4 years with tariffs bringing
Silent Type
Jan 2025
#6
Yep, I've been telling people to miss this upside ... it aint going to be big enough to chase and better to sit in bonds
uponit7771
Jan 2025
#7
Bookmarking because I can barely make sense out of any of this stuff and must move from almost all money market to
mahina
Jan 2025
#12
I'm curious to see whether a broader move to private equity will occur, and the impact on public markets
lostnfound
Jan 2025
#22
Private equity for the public is like leaving a steak on a counter for a month
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#23