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FHRRK

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29. Live about 50 miles south in Orange County

Sat Jan 11, 2025, 05:25 PM

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In a fire area right above a canyon.

The brush can be managed right off the backyards. After that, a steep cliff that animals couldn’t walk.

The area burns about every ten years and the only way to fight it is with air support and firefighters in backyards.

Every time some asshole will come yell at fire fighters for not going down into a narrow V shaped canyon to fight the fire. Let’s us know which neighbors are assholes who need to be ignored.

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state of stupid Attilatheblond LauraInLA valleyrogue

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If you run across anyone saying brush clearance could have prevented the Palisades Fire, show them this [View all] highplainsdem Yesterday OP

Yes. Several years of wet growth followed by dry... FailureToCommunicate Yesterday #1

And for that the indigenous practice, from Igel 19 hrs ago #41

Homeowners must do a better job clearing their spaces. I don't think controlled burns are a possibility LauraInLA 7 hrs ago #47

Sorry you guys out there are having to go thru all this. Even sorrier that you have to listen to all the spurts. state of stupid 1 hr ago #62

Thank you for all this amazing and helpful information! LauraInLA 59 min ago #64

You are most welcome. Hang in there. state of stupid 55 min ago #65

I know a little about wildland fire fighting (with a valid Incident Qualification Card - "Red Card") .. and I know this: Bo Zarts Yesterday #2

The more pertinent question is what actually "started" this fire? Tarzanrock Yesterday #3

Or someone was deliberate. COL Mustard Yesterday #9

Two arrests so far malaise Yesterday #15

I didn't realized they'd arrested anyone for arson! LauraInLA 7 hrs ago #49

Are you aware of the massive fees that So Cal Edison paid after one of our regional fires? Hekate 18 hrs ago #42

I know a RWNJ LPBBEAR Yesterday #4

RWNJs can rake the forests all they want KS Toronado Yesterday #28

They are full of shit Cosmocat Yesterday #35

When that manage the forests better comes from GOP Pols in Ohio, where they get rain & have rivers, Attilatheblond Yesterday #36

Just hand them a rake... rasputin1952 6 hrs ago #55

Appreciate this article. Mike 03 Yesterday #5

When the Santa Annas are blowing 80 to 99 MPH dry winds, and live burning ash is traveling miles Attilatheblond Yesterday #37

This place is a great resource and an awesome place to visit! They are on the 210 west of Pasadena. LauraInLA 6 hrs ago #52

That article does not exactly debunk the underbrush theory hueymahl Yesterday #6

The brush evolved with wildfire. It evolved to burn. That's not spinning reality. That is reality. paleotn Yesterday #11

You are making my point for me hueymahl Yesterday #12

No, I'm not. Now you're twisting reality. paleotn Yesterday #18

That's not what the experts are saying hueymahl Yesterday #19

Yes, that is what experts are saying. paleotn Yesterday #22

Well, we can do this all day, lol hueymahl Yesterday #23

And you'd still be wrong. paleotn Yesterday #24

I agree with you to an extent, but the fact is that years and years ago, construction was allowed in LauraInLA 6 hrs ago #53

those fires are in brushlands, not tall tree forests. there no understory carpet of debris to clear compared to msongs Yesterday #14

Correct hueymahl Yesterday #17

I'm not sure you understand how difficult a lot of this terrain is -- it's part of why people built there, LauraInLA 6 hrs ago #54

Let's talk cutting brush. I volunteer, cutting brush, building boardwalk and so forth at a local swamp. 300+ acres. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #7

Several mountain ranges to the east of the LA basin. Many canyons and hillsides. Look at Altadena here, chia Yesterday #13

Yeah Mountainguy Yesterday #26

Yes, that is the problem... the winds were probably a freight train down Eaton Canyon, throwing embers chia Yesterday #39

You are making so much sense. Sadly, I read an interview with one Altadena resident who lost her home -- LauraInLA 6 hrs ago #56

It takes a lot of money to replace a roof, money a lot of family just don't have. I see you're in LA, chia 4 hrs ago #58

Thank you! I'm glad you're safe! My heart breaks for everyone who lost their home and community, LauraInLA 4 hrs ago #59

The 1970 fires were brutal, and arson, I believe, up & down the coast. Santa Annas were blowing hard, it was very dry Attilatheblond 1 hr ago #63

stupid azureblue Yesterday #8

The stuff is built to burn. It evolved with regular wildfires. Part of the life cycle of many indigenous plant species. paleotn Yesterday #10

I thought I remember from my grade school days Littlered Yesterday #16

Why would they let anyone build anything in Asheville NC? Or Chimney Rock? Or Bat Cave? Or Lake Lure? paleotn Yesterday #20

exactly. dying hurricanes going along the appalachians is not that unusual and buildings in the bottom of canyons msongs Yesterday #25

I've often said the same thing Littlered 12 hrs ago #45

100% hueymahl Yesterday #21

Chaparral is designed to burn. Botany Yesterday #27

Evolved ... not designed. VMA131Marine Yesterday #31

But doesn't evolution over generations. Botany Yesterday #38

Evolution is not in any way directed VMA131Marine 22 hrs ago #40

Picking the fly poop out of the pepper over the use of the word design aren't you? Botany 9 hrs ago #46

You just described evolution. n/t rasputin1952 6 hrs ago #57

Live about 50 miles south in Orange County FHRRK Yesterday #29

+++ KPN 6 hrs ago #51

Social media is loaded with asshole comments Klarkashton Yesterday #30

Chipping it works to greatly reduce combustibility KPN 7 hrs ago #50

and the other fallacy stopdiggin Yesterday #32

Every year. Prescribed burns and brush clearing. Melon 17 hrs ago #44

Also show them this meme & link. ancianita Yesterday #33

It depends on who is responsible for doing the raking which was a point made the last time state of stupid Yesterday #34

Nawww...so the answer is that we are helpless and this is gods plan? Nooooo Melon 17 hrs ago #43

Yep, nothing more threatening or dangerous than wind KPN 7 hrs ago #48

Great and informative podcast by a "old experienced firefighter" SupportOurTruths 2 hrs ago #60

Many Easterners don't comprehend that California has a climate Retrograde 2 hrs ago #61