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hueymahl

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Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:31 PM

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Which is why I said controlled burns and other mitigation efforts. There is room for both. Prevention is a multifaceted, multi layered process. And yes, that includes mechanical removal a.k.a. “raking“, as much as we hate to admit it.

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If you run across anyone saying brush clearance could have prevented the Palisades Fire, show them this [View all] highplainsdem Yesterday OP

Yes. Several years of wet growth followed by dry... FailureToCommunicate Yesterday #1

And for that the indigenous practice, from Igel 19 hrs ago #41

Homeowners must do a better job clearing their spaces. I don't think controlled burns are a possibility LauraInLA 7 hrs ago #47

Sorry you guys out there are having to go thru all this. Even sorrier that you have to listen to all the spurts. state of stupid 2 hrs ago #62

Thank you for all this amazing and helpful information! LauraInLA 1 hr ago #64

You are most welcome. Hang in there. state of stupid 1 hr ago #65

I know a little about wildland fire fighting (with a valid Incident Qualification Card - "Red Card") .. and I know this: Bo Zarts Yesterday #2

The more pertinent question is what actually "started" this fire? Tarzanrock Yesterday #3

Or someone was deliberate. COL Mustard Yesterday #9

Two arrests so far malaise Yesterday #15

I didn't realized they'd arrested anyone for arson! LauraInLA 7 hrs ago #49

Are you aware of the massive fees that So Cal Edison paid after one of our regional fires? Hekate 19 hrs ago #42

I know a RWNJ LPBBEAR Yesterday #4

RWNJs can rake the forests all they want KS Toronado Yesterday #28

They are full of shit Cosmocat Yesterday #35

When that manage the forests better comes from GOP Pols in Ohio, where they get rain & have rivers, Attilatheblond Yesterday #36

Just hand them a rake... rasputin1952 7 hrs ago #55

Appreciate this article. Mike 03 Yesterday #5

When the Santa Annas are blowing 80 to 99 MPH dry winds, and live burning ash is traveling miles Attilatheblond Yesterday #37

This place is a great resource and an awesome place to visit! They are on the 210 west of Pasadena. LauraInLA 7 hrs ago #52

That article does not exactly debunk the underbrush theory hueymahl Yesterday #6

The brush evolved with wildfire. It evolved to burn. That's not spinning reality. That is reality. paleotn Yesterday #11

You are making my point for me hueymahl Yesterday #12

No, I'm not. Now you're twisting reality. paleotn Yesterday #18

That's not what the experts are saying hueymahl Yesterday #19

Yes, that is what experts are saying. paleotn Yesterday #22

Well, we can do this all day, lol hueymahl Yesterday #23

And you'd still be wrong. paleotn Yesterday #24

I agree with you to an extent, but the fact is that years and years ago, construction was allowed in LauraInLA 7 hrs ago #53

those fires are in brushlands, not tall tree forests. there no understory carpet of debris to clear compared to msongs Yesterday #14

Correct hueymahl Yesterday #17

I'm not sure you understand how difficult a lot of this terrain is -- it's part of why people built there, LauraInLA 7 hrs ago #54

Let's talk cutting brush. I volunteer, cutting brush, building boardwalk and so forth at a local swamp. 300+ acres. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #7

Several mountain ranges to the east of the LA basin. Many canyons and hillsides. Look at Altadena here, chia Yesterday #13

Yeah Mountainguy Yesterday #26

Yes, that is the problem... the winds were probably a freight train down Eaton Canyon, throwing embers chia Yesterday #39

You are making so much sense. Sadly, I read an interview with one Altadena resident who lost her home -- LauraInLA 6 hrs ago #56

It takes a lot of money to replace a roof, money a lot of family just don't have. I see you're in LA, chia 5 hrs ago #58

Thank you! I'm glad you're safe! My heart breaks for everyone who lost their home and community, LauraInLA 5 hrs ago #59

The 1970 fires were brutal, and arson, I believe, up & down the coast. Santa Annas were blowing hard, it was very dry Attilatheblond 2 hrs ago #63

stupid azureblue Yesterday #8

The stuff is built to burn. It evolved with regular wildfires. Part of the life cycle of many indigenous plant species. paleotn Yesterday #10

I thought I remember from my grade school days Littlered Yesterday #16

Why would they let anyone build anything in Asheville NC? Or Chimney Rock? Or Bat Cave? Or Lake Lure? paleotn Yesterday #20

exactly. dying hurricanes going along the appalachians is not that unusual and buildings in the bottom of canyons msongs Yesterday #25

I've often said the same thing Littlered 12 hrs ago #45

100% hueymahl Yesterday #21

Chaparral is designed to burn. Botany Yesterday #27

Evolved ... not designed. VMA131Marine Yesterday #31

But doesn't evolution over generations. Botany Yesterday #38

Evolution is not in any way directed VMA131Marine 22 hrs ago #40

Picking the fly poop out of the pepper over the use of the word design aren't you? Botany 10 hrs ago #46

You just described evolution. n/t rasputin1952 6 hrs ago #57

Live about 50 miles south in Orange County FHRRK Yesterday #29

+++ KPN 7 hrs ago #51

Social media is loaded with asshole comments Klarkashton Yesterday #30

Chipping it works to greatly reduce combustibility KPN 7 hrs ago #50

and the other fallacy stopdiggin Yesterday #32

Every year. Prescribed burns and brush clearing. Melon 17 hrs ago #44

Also show them this meme & link. ancianita Yesterday #33

It depends on who is responsible for doing the raking which was a point made the last time state of stupid Yesterday #34

Nawww...so the answer is that we are helpless and this is gods plan? Nooooo Melon 17 hrs ago #43

Yep, nothing more threatening or dangerous than wind KPN 7 hrs ago #48

Great and informative podcast by a "old experienced firefighter" SupportOurTruths 3 hrs ago #60

Many Easterners don't comprehend that California has a climate Retrograde 3 hrs ago #61