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3Hotdogs

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7. Let's talk cutting brush. I volunteer, cutting brush, building boardwalk and so forth at a local swamp. 300+ acres.
Sat Jan 11, 2025, 04:09 PM
Jan 2025

Just keeping the trails clear is a major chore. Then we try to go off trails to eradicate invasive plants. That is even more difficult because we encounter thorns, branches tree trunks, insects and on and on. Oh, and our terrain is mostly flat or it probably wouldn't be a swamp.

Fortunately, we have no poisonous reptiles on the property. Nor bears or Mountain Lions.

So let's consider Pacific Palisades. I have never been there. But the photographs and videos.I don't know if the area qualifies as mountainous. But there are clearly substantial hills. When my club volunteers to clear a part of the Appalachian Train in N.J., then we get hills. And guess what. We "run out of gas" in about an hour or two. In other words, the weed wacking, combined with chopping, cutting and so forth - tires us out quite quickly.

I cannot imaging trying to clear the brush from those hills.

3H

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Yes. Several years of wet growth followed by dry... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2025 #1
And for that the indigenous practice, from Igel Jan 2025 #41
Homeowners must do a better job clearing their spaces. I don't think controlled burns are a possibility LauraInLA Jan 2025 #47
Sorry you guys out there are having to go thru all this. Even sorrier that you have to listen to all the spurts. state of stupid Jan 2025 #62
Thank you for all this amazing and helpful information! LauraInLA Jan 2025 #64
You are most welcome. Hang in there. state of stupid Jan 2025 #65
I know a little about wildland fire fighting (with a valid Incident Qualification Card - "Red Card") .. and I know this: Bo Zarts Jan 2025 #2
The more pertinent question is what actually "started" this fire? Tarzanrock Jan 2025 #3
Or someone was deliberate. COL Mustard Jan 2025 #9
Two arrests so far malaise Jan 2025 #15
I didn't realized they'd arrested anyone for arson! LauraInLA Jan 2025 #49
No one has been arrested for arson obamanut2012 Jan 2025 #70
Me, too -- I'm in Burbank. That's why I was surprised. I hope you're staying safe ;). LauraInLA Jan 2025 #75
Are you aware of the massive fees that So Cal Edison paid after one of our regional fires? Hekate Jan 2025 #42
I know a RWNJ LPBBEAR Jan 2025 #4
RWNJs can rake the forests all they want KS Toronado Jan 2025 #28
They are full of shit Cosmocat Jan 2025 #35
When that manage the forests better comes from GOP Pols in Ohio, where they get rain & have rivers, Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #36
Just hand them a rake... rasputin1952 Jan 2025 #55
They wouldn't know what to do with it. LPBBEAR Jan 2025 #72
Appreciate this article. Mike 03 Jan 2025 #5
When the Santa Annas are blowing 80 to 99 MPH dry winds, and live burning ash is traveling miles Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #37
This place is a great resource and an awesome place to visit! They are on the 210 west of Pasadena. LauraInLA Jan 2025 #52
That article does not exactly debunk the underbrush theory hueymahl Jan 2025 #6
The brush evolved with wildfire. It evolved to burn. That's not spinning reality. That is reality. paleotn Jan 2025 #11
You are making my point for me hueymahl Jan 2025 #12
No, I'm not. Now you're twisting reality. paleotn Jan 2025 #18
That's not what the experts are saying hueymahl Jan 2025 #19
Yes, that is what experts are saying. paleotn Jan 2025 #22
Well, we can do this all day, lol hueymahl Jan 2025 #23
And you'd still be wrong. paleotn Jan 2025 #24
I agree with you to an extent, but the fact is that years and years ago, construction was allowed in LauraInLA Jan 2025 #53
those fires are in brushlands, not tall tree forests. there no understory carpet of debris to clear compared to msongs Jan 2025 #14
Correct hueymahl Jan 2025 #17
I'm not sure you understand how difficult a lot of this terrain is -- it's part of why people built there, LauraInLA Jan 2025 #54
I'm From The East RobinA Jan 2025 #73
That really is the throughline, right? "Everybody wants his ocean view." ;) LauraInLA Jan 2025 #74
Let's talk cutting brush. I volunteer, cutting brush, building boardwalk and so forth at a local swamp. 300+ acres. 3Hotdogs Jan 2025 #7
Several mountain ranges to the east of the LA basin. Many canyons and hillsides. Look at Altadena here, chia Jan 2025 #13
Yeah Mountainguy Jan 2025 #26
Yes, that is the problem... the winds were probably a freight train down Eaton Canyon, throwing embers chia Jan 2025 #39
You are making so much sense. Sadly, I read an interview with one Altadena resident who lost her home -- LauraInLA Jan 2025 #56
It takes a lot of money to replace a roof, money a lot of family just don't have. I see you're in LA, chia Jan 2025 #58
Thank you! I'm glad you're safe! My heart breaks for everyone who lost their home and community, LauraInLA Jan 2025 #59
The 1970 fires were brutal, and arson, I believe, up & down the coast. Santa Annas were blowing hard, it was very dry Attilatheblond Jan 2025 #63
Those memories stay with you, mine are still vivid from 1970 and 2003. Your last line is right on the money. chia Jan 2025 #69
And cut brush quickly dries out Zambero Jan 2025 #77
stupid azureblue Jan 2025 #8
The stuff is built to burn. It evolved with regular wildfires. Part of the life cycle of many indigenous plant species. paleotn Jan 2025 #10
I thought I remember from my grade school days Littlered Jan 2025 #16
Why would they let anyone build anything in Asheville NC? Or Chimney Rock? Or Bat Cave? Or Lake Lure? paleotn Jan 2025 #20
exactly. dying hurricanes going along the appalachians is not that unusual and buildings in the bottom of canyons msongs Jan 2025 #25
I've often said the same thing Littlered Jan 2025 #45
100% hueymahl Jan 2025 #21
Chaparral is designed to burn. Botany Jan 2025 #27
Evolved ... not designed. VMA131Marine Jan 2025 #31
But doesn't evolution over generations. Botany Jan 2025 #38
Evolution is not in any way directed VMA131Marine Jan 2025 #40
Picking the fly poop out of the pepper over the use of the word design aren't you? Botany Jan 2025 #46
Design implies intelligence and a purpose VMA131Marine Jan 2025 #67
You just described evolution. n/t rasputin1952 Jan 2025 #57
Live about 50 miles south in Orange County FHRRK Jan 2025 #29
+++ KPN Jan 2025 #51
Social media is loaded with asshole comments Klarkashton Jan 2025 #30
Chipping it works to greatly reduce combustibility KPN Jan 2025 #50
and the other fallacy stopdiggin Jan 2025 #32
Every year. Prescribed burns and brush clearing. Melon Jan 2025 #44
the point being, this is NOT a problem you are going to solve stopdiggin Jan 2025 #66
It's a big state Retrograde Jan 2025 #68
Around and through major cities Melon Jan 2025 #78
Also show them this meme & link. ancianita Jan 2025 #33
It depends on who is responsible for doing the raking which was a point made the last time state of stupid Jan 2025 #34
Nawww...so the answer is that we are helpless and this is gods plan? Nooooo Melon Jan 2025 #43
Yep, nothing more threatening or dangerous than wind KPN Jan 2025 #48
Great and informative podcast by a "old experienced firefighter" SupportOurTruths Jan 2025 #60
Many Easterners don't comprehend that California has a climate Retrograde Jan 2025 #61
I'm originally from the SE, not live in CA obamanut2012 Jan 2025 #71
MAGA thinks they are experts in everything that enrages them. Basso8vb Jan 2025 #76
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