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In reply to the discussion: Judge Merchan did not sentence TSF, he merely concluded the proceedings. [View all]CoopersDad
(3,272 posts)23. Merchan: [protections] did not reduce the seriousness of the crimes or erase the jury's verdict.
Trump was sentenced, and he was convicted in the words of the judge, it would seem.
Merchan said during sentencing Friday that he was granting that sentence because he believed it was the only legal option, just 10 days before Trump assumes the presidency.
Merchan told the court that "this has been a truly extraordinary case," even though once the courtroom doors closed, the trial itself had been in his estimation no more special or unique than any other.
However, he told Trump, the same could not be said about the circumstances surrounding the president-elect's sentencing "because of the office you once occupied and will soon occupy again." Merchan said that it was the legal protections afforded to the office of the president that were extraordinary, "not the occupant of the office."
Those legal protections were a factor that overrode all others, Merchan said, but they were not a mitigating factor. He said they did not reduce the seriousness of the crimes or erase the jury's verdict.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-sentencing-new-york-hush-money-case/
Merchan told the court that "this has been a truly extraordinary case," even though once the courtroom doors closed, the trial itself had been in his estimation no more special or unique than any other.
However, he told Trump, the same could not be said about the circumstances surrounding the president-elect's sentencing "because of the office you once occupied and will soon occupy again." Merchan said that it was the legal protections afforded to the office of the president that were extraordinary, "not the occupant of the office."
Those legal protections were a factor that overrode all others, Merchan said, but they were not a mitigating factor. He said they did not reduce the seriousness of the crimes or erase the jury's verdict.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-sentencing-new-york-hush-money-case/
Audio here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/listen-trump-new-york-hush-money-sentencing/
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Judge Merchan did not sentence TSF, he merely concluded the proceedings. [View all]
bluesbassman
Jan 2025
OP
45 does not care if he is a convicted felon, only that he does not serve jail time.. This will only embolden him.nt
mitch96
Jan 2025
#1
He cares very much, otherwise he wouldn't have tried to postpone the sentencing
Ocelot II
Jan 2025
#3
"If he didn't care he wouldn't be ranting about it".I think he rants about anything that attacks him. It's in his nature
mitch96
Jan 2025
#6
It was procedurally significant, though, because even though no punishment was imposed,
Ocelot II
Jan 2025
#2
You're an expert on NY law? I'm not, but your statement contradicts all the reports I've read. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#7
"the jury had previously convicted the POS so he was already a felon." I don't think you know NY law. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#10
You're correct, I'm not a NY attorney. However the NY Bar probably knows the law fairly well.
bluesbassman
Jan 2025
#11
DoJ disagrees. Your link does not specifically address the point because it is a tutorial, not a legal analysis
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#14
It says "United States practice", not Federal. It would say the latter it was the latter, bc DoJ is, you know, Federal.n
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#25
"United states" in the legal context often means specifically the federal government
unblock
Jan 2025
#28
I got it from NY State Law pages. I was trying to explain the many articles that make the distinction to you
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#34
"NY Bar's word": whoosh. It is their SIMPLIFICATION. Read your own link's preface!
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#35
In ordinary parlance, yes, a "felon". But as they say "The law grinds slowly but it grinds very finely"
Bernardo de La Paz
Jan 2025
#15
Joke of a crimimal justice system in this country and I for one will never participate again. Fuck em.
Comfortably_Numb
Jan 2025
#16
No. Judge Merchan didn't "merely conclude a proceeding." He sentenced the jury-convicted defendant.
ancianita
Jan 2025
#17
Excuse me, but that very impressive list of lost rights, is 100% null an d void the as soon as he is officially "sworn
msfiddlestix
Jan 2025
#26
Yes Merchan was just officially saying goodbye to Trump and ending the proceedings.
Irish_Dem
Jan 2025
#18
Merchan: [protections] did not reduce the seriousness of the crimes or erase the jury's verdict.
CoopersDad
Jan 2025
#23