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PCIntern

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Tue Dec 24, 2024, 11:20 AM 20 hrs ago

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But on this Christmas Eve, I would like to make what I consider a significant point about America and why this clown could be reelected with even more votes than he received the first two times he ran.

Simply put, Americans have little or no institutional/national memory. They are trained not to have a memory and I’m going to tell you how it is inculcated into us. Did you ever have a favorite broadcaster on TV or radio whom you watched for a great many years and all of a sudden they left the station? It may have been because of a format change, retirement, or a problem with new leadership in management, but for whatever reason one day they were gone. In the vast number of circumstances, they are never mentioned again… Ever. In Philadelphia we have had broadcasters who had incredibly long tenures at the TV and radio stations and their names are never mentioned on that station after they depart. It is apparently a given in the industry.

Yes, it is true that people talk, usually briefly, about Walter Cronkite or David Brinkley, but that is because they were associated with covering world-altering events such as the Kennedy Assassination or the fall of the Iron Curtain. But it’s not just the broadcast media which exercises this prerogative.

Sports teams, no matter how successful, rarely mention previously employed players unless they are in the superstar or Hall of fame categories and even then, it’s kept to an absolute minimum. I’ll give you an example: I have been a Philadelphia sports fan since 1958 and our local, very much of a “Homer” media will reference a particular team, whether good (not often) or awful (more frequently) and IF a player is mentioned from that team it is nearly always the same player, as though the team consisted of this guy and a number of insignificant no-names. But I’ll tell you what: if a fellow by the name of Del Unser had not doubled in the top of the tenth inning in the fifth and deciding game of the Phillies-Astros playoff series, the Phillies likely would have not eventually gone on to the World Series and won their first title ever in their history. Del who? I have not heard his name mentioned in a Phillies broadcast since 1985 or so. Not once.

And lastly, in the music industry, once you’re out of favor, your concert venues metamorphose from stadiums to coffee houses and oldie festivals thirty years later. The music vanishes literally into the ether. Remember The Grass Roots? Yes? No? As per Wiki:

“ In their career, they achieved two gold albums and two gold singles, and charted singles on the Billboard Hot 100 a total of 21 times. Among their charting singles, they achieved Top 10 three times, Top 20 six times and Top 40 14 times.[6][7] They have sold over 20 million records worldwide”

When is the last time anyone talked about them? (Ok ok, yeah. You have their albums. I get it but you ain’t the masses) Gone With the Wind they are…

So Americans have no need to know history apparently. My history courses in junior high and high school were atrocious in every respect. I learned about civics, historical trends, history itself, and government in my mid-late twenties via newspapers and books I’d taken out of the “liberry” (sic). I was a doctoral recipient attending and then instructing at an Ivy League institution and a vacant moron when it came to this subject. Embarrassing. I’m still wildly undereducated in this respect.

So I work with people in their twenties and thirties. Many have never, and will proudly state this, watched a black and white film or tv show including but not limited to documentaries and recaps of historical news broadcasts. One fellow complimented me upon the use of the phrase “low-down”. When I asked him why, he stated that it was new….i told him that it wasn’t new when I was five years old and he actually did not believe me. He asked the only other person in the office nearly my age-within 10 years- and she just laughed at him. She literally said to him, “Are you a moron or just plain stupid?” I thought that a bit harsh, but not really out of bounds.

The American amnesia is sufficiently pervasive that many millions have literally forgotten the entire Trump Presidency as though it never happened. Many recall with certainty the pandemic beginning under President Biden and many wonder why President Obama wasn’t in the White House where he belonged on 9/11. We used to think it was a minority, but it isn’t a trivial one. Hell, these people can’t remember the brand of beer they drank daily from five years ago so why should they know anything about national or world events and personalities?

With this ignorance and unwillingness to learn from history comes hate and prejudice. We are reliving the 1930’s except Roosevelt isn’t President, a diseased version of Charles Lindbergh is soon going to be inaugurated and we are truly going to require a Deus ex machina for our salvation. But, it is not likely, for to slightly paraphrase Shakespeare: the fault lies not in our stars, but in ourselves. We are the weak link: deliberately undereducated and programmed by the corporate media

Well: a very Merry Christmas, a Happy Chanukah, and a Heri za Kwanzaa to all! And if you are an atheist, have a wonderful week!

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AMEN recovering_democrat 20 hrs ago #1
That's all true. bucolic_frolic 20 hrs ago #2
If people have not read it, I can strongly suggest reading "A Fever In The Heartland" by Timothy Egan GeoWilliam750 14 hrs ago #66
Nail meet hammer Pachamama 20 hrs ago #3
Happy....er...what? Clouds Passing 20 hrs ago #4
the smothers brothers, phil donahue were superstars rampartd 20 hrs ago #5
We are trained to work The Madcap 20 hrs ago #6
Oh Yeah. Some of my Nordic friends call Americans "Ants" ....it ain't a compliment. chouchou 19 hrs ago #35
Information overload The Wizard 20 hrs ago #7
This is what I want to say... madaboutharry 20 hrs ago #8
Is that them new bees or hornets that invaded us from Asia? 3Hotdogs 20 hrs ago #23
Yum! Shipwack 18 hrs ago #51
Joyce Vance shared a recipe for Rugelach on her Substack. soldierant 8 hrs ago #81
Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia Wicked Blue 20 hrs ago #9
And eliminate DOE in Project 2025 Evolve Dammit 20 hrs ago #25
People need to watch jeopardy MacKasey 20 hrs ago #10
True, but Jeopardy has changed. LisaM 20 hrs ago #15
I have a friend born in the 1950s IbogaProject 17 hrs ago #57
It depends on the categories. LisaM 15 hrs ago #64
Alot more pop culture QA as well. nt Ilsa 10 hrs ago #77
"I went home for lunch" BumRushDaShow 19 hrs ago #34
I lived 2 blocks from school MacKasey 18 hrs ago #46
I lived about 4 blocks from my original elementary school BumRushDaShow 18 hrs ago #53
I had the exact experience as a kid, La Coliniere 14 hrs ago #65
Frankly, I think that is exactly the wrong approach. malthaussen 14 hrs ago #67
I can appreciate your disagreement MacKasey 13 hrs ago #70
An interesting observation, and of course it leads to Santayana's famous remark, Ocelot II 20 hrs ago #11
I frequently get posts from a group called "Old Time Baseball" in my fb feed. malthaussen 14 hrs ago #68
This is why history isn't linear, but moves in cycles Blaukraut 12 hrs ago #72
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music 20 hrs ago #12
Historians are fully aware of what you both say. Which is why they become historians in the first place, and why ancianita 20 hrs ago #21
bookmarking to read later. Thank you. I rec'd it already and want to chew on a bit - and provide a respose. NewHendoLib 20 hrs ago #13
Yep. Another way to put it is "here and now" -- that's all Americans care about, the current KPN 20 hrs ago #14
We also often forget when our stars are no longer with us. keep_left 20 hrs ago #16
Outstanding. Mike 03 20 hrs ago #17
I always refer to a sense of history. murielm99 20 hrs ago #18
No Long-Term Memory is how bastards get the US Taxpayer on the Hook Kid Berwyn 20 hrs ago #19
Sigh...sadly, all true. pandr32 20 hrs ago #20
To me, the key line on your post: Escurumbele 20 hrs ago #22
There's never a magical time of remembering Sympthsical 20 hrs ago #24
Ho ho ho... PCIntern 19 hrs ago #28
Do you know all kinds of 1880s and 90s singers as well? Popular theater actors of the Gilded Age? Sympthsical 19 hrs ago #39
Memory intelpug 5 hrs ago #83
I remember the Grass Roots. My band opened for them Mblaze 20 hrs ago #26
That's actually pretty cool... PCIntern 19 hrs ago #29
The band we opened for that sucked the most Mblaze 19 hrs ago #40
Sanewashing is brainwashing. dchill 20 hrs ago #27
Happy & healthy New Year to you and yours, PCI Hekate 19 hrs ago #30
And to you!!! PCIntern 19 hrs ago #41
Let's Live ForToday JMCKUSICK 19 hrs ago #31
Gore Vidal dubbed the US thucythucy 19 hrs ago #32
Excellent points, perfectly articulated. PCIntern 19 hrs ago #42
You jumped right from radios to smart phones. What about TV? nt Nittersing 18 hrs ago #48
TV obviously also had an impact, thucythucy 18 hrs ago #54
A lot of kids were "raised" by television Nittersing 17 hrs ago #56
Good points. thucythucy 17 hrs ago #58
Many Americans are lazy young_at_heart 19 hrs ago #33
I feel that... 2naSalit 17 hrs ago #59
What you wrote echoes my feelings riverbendviewgal 19 hrs ago #36
athiest that does xmas traditions here Kali 19 hrs ago #37
The result of letting many home school their children biophile 19 hrs ago #38
Thinking more philosophically, there is the 14th Dalai Lama outlook Beringia 19 hrs ago #43
I went to high school with Hugh Downs' daughter PCIntern 19 hrs ago #44
"We are the weak link: deliberately undereducated and programmed by the corporate media." OldBaldy1701E 19 hrs ago #45
Memory is a small part - Nigrum Cattus 18 hrs ago #47
Even in the 70s history Figarosmom 18 hrs ago #49
History teachers intelpug 5 hrs ago #84
And he was right Figarosmom 5 hrs ago #85
Excellent. I would also add that somewhere along the line, "History is boring" became a LoisB 18 hrs ago #50
History was made boring by becoming an endless recitation of facts. malthaussen 13 hrs ago #69
A salient point about the band The Grass Roots EYESORE 9001 18 hrs ago #52
PCIntern............ Upthevibe 18 hrs ago #55
In the era of "personality politics" (bad) people only want their prejudices reinforced. And they are easily tricked. usonian 17 hrs ago #60
You echo my thoughts... rasputin1952 16 hrs ago #61
Nostalgia and its opposites Nasruddin 16 hrs ago #62
And assassination is becoming too common dlbell 15 hrs ago #63
Gotta agree with everything here... Trueblue Texan 13 hrs ago #71
I get the point... lonely bird 12 hrs ago #73
Am an American. I remember Tweedy 12 hrs ago #74
You speak the truth! Ziggysmom 12 hrs ago #75
I remember the W. Bush administration and Beck23 11 hrs ago #76
I remember in the early 80s many people didnt know who their Senators were Callie1979 10 hrs ago #78
It is shocking to me anyway Meowmee 9 hrs ago #79
I agree 200% with you! slightlv 8 hrs ago #80
It's not that Americans have no memory. The problem is mass media. Initech 7 hrs ago #82
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