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68. from a practical and legal perspective, yes.
Mon Dec 23, 2024, 03:32 PM
Dec 2024

maybe some jurisdictions make a distinction, and perhaps the age of the victim factors into sentencing, but for the most part, under age is under age.

if you're a psychologist studying or treating patients, these are useful distinctions. the younger victim, the more outrageous the offense and the psychology can be quite different. there's clearly something very, very wrong with sex with a child who hasn't even reached puberty. such a person is clearly getting their own gratification at the expense of an child who can't possibly have any concept of what's going on. the older the victim gets, the more it is a matter of where society has decided to draw the line. chronological age is a bit arbitrary in determining when someone really can understand the concept of giving consent, but it's the best we can realistically use. so the psychology may be just as insensitive to the victim as with a younger child, or it may be that they are trying to have an actual relationship with the victim (and it may appear to be reciprocal), but they may not understand or accept society's rules and laws and have trouble abiding by them.

to be clear, it's *always* immoral when for an adult to have sex with a minor, but the levels of moral outrage vary depending on the circumstances and the relative ages and circumstances, and these distinctions may be helpful in distinguishing these.

but yeah, at a high level, it is splitting hairs. that's why lay people just call all these things "pedophilia" rather than get into the perhaps subtle differences.

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if someone even looks under 30 lapfog_1 Dec 2024 #1
You're right. Its imperative when you're a young guy now even though some laws have changed. Callie1979 Dec 2024 #22
He is a goddamned lawyer, an officer of the court. displacedvermoter Dec 2024 #40
Gaetz is a fucking spoiled brat stollen Dec 2024 #83
Well, if TSF's history is any map of the future, Gaetz will be POTUS someday. How far our allegorical oracle Dec 2024 #2
Pedophile asshole needs to be in prison. Emile Dec 2024 #3
Not defending nor condoning Matt Gaetz and his actions. Dyedinthewoolliberal Dec 2024 #16
Child sexual abusers have been difficult to classify. Emile Dec 2024 #30
as a practical matter, "pedophilia" is used regarding anyone under the legal age of consent. unblock Dec 2024 #36
Isn't that really just splitting hairs? JoseBalow Dec 2024 #63
from a practical and legal perspective, yes. unblock Dec 2024 #68
True Polybius Dec 2024 #52
The law does not make that distinction. soldierant Dec 2024 #82
Which one? There are many from whom to choose COL Mustard Dec 2024 #20
Maybe Gaetz will start ratting them out. Emile Dec 2024 #51
Madison Cawthorn seems to have the goods on the US Congress' party boys, drugs, gang rape, and perverts.. magicarpet Dec 2024 #53
I thought George Santos was going to rat out Emile Dec 2024 #54
Wouldn'f it be nice if we could count on DOJ to lock him up & keep him there? SheltieLover Dec 2024 #4
Why didn't the Heathrow, Florida, PD or the Seminole County Sheriff's Department investigate or do anything? sop Dec 2024 #56
Trump didn't know? mgardener Dec 2024 #5
are you kidding? Kali Dec 2024 #7
How could he not know? LisaL Dec 2024 #8
Trump knows. Trump approves. tanyev Dec 2024 #12
...and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it - Jeffrey enjoys his social life." keithbvadu2 Dec 2024 #42
Another GOP groomer. They are always projecting. surfered Dec 2024 #6
Every accusation is an admission underpants Dec 2024 #10
Right out of the Nazi Playbook BOSSHOG Dec 2024 #18
One only has to take one look... GiqueCee Dec 2024 #9
This right here johnnyfins Dec 2024 #11
So, it turns out Madison Cawthorn wasn't too far off in his claim.... paleotn Dec 2024 #13
Cawthorn, as despicable a creep as he may be, was surely telling the truth when he made those accusations. Wiz Imp Dec 2024 #24
First rule of GOP predator club, is you don't talk about GOP predator club IronLionZion Dec 2024 #33
And how do we find out? stollen Dec 2024 #84
Does Trump want Gaetz executed now? mzmolly Dec 2024 #14
Gaslighting like always. Justice matters. Dec 2024 #60
If only that were a crime Johonny Dec 2024 #15
And Garland wouldn't prosecute! LW1977 Dec 2024 #17
G.O.P. values are total scum suckery BoRaGard Dec 2024 #19
trump felt left out Beachnutt Dec 2024 #21
So WHY the heck wasn't he charged way back when this started???? Callie1979 Dec 2024 #23
Qanon missed another one, all GOP for some reason IronLionZion Dec 2024 #25
Even the GOP acknowledges it.... but Garland didn't charge. Happy Hoosier Dec 2024 #26
Reminder: Trump wanted just weeks ago to make this disgrace the Attorney General of the United States Prairie Gates Dec 2024 #27
Arrest him. AllyCat Dec 2024 #28
Does not matter kansasobama Dec 2024 #29
He will probably be the next US Senator from Florida. sinkingfeeling Dec 2024 #31
So is ole Marge Traildogbob Dec 2024 #32
Call me cynical, but the (R)'s will celebrate him ... aggiesal Dec 2024 #34
More details about the report here: Ocelot II Dec 2024 #35
Why wasn't he charged? It's not like he is a Priest 😂😂😂 walkingman Dec 2024 #37
Are all conservative Dr. T Dec 2024 #38
And what will happen to gaetz? Be The Light Dec 2024 #39
Trump, who raped a 13 y/o, wanted Gaetz as AG. keithbvadu2 Dec 2024 #41
He looks creepy as hell. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #43
I'm sure Florida law enforcement will get right on this Mysterian Dec 2024 #44
Gosh, why would the Christian GOP work so hard to keep this information hidden? Orrex Dec 2024 #45
Cash flow keithbvadu2 Dec 2024 #46
Coulda Been America's Next Attorney General Kid Berwyn Dec 2024 #47
Did little Matt buy any firearms after taking illegal drugs? Did he lie on any federal forms? yaesu Dec 2024 #48
So, to sum up: BobTheSubgenius Dec 2024 #49
Child rape. Don't sugar coat this if/when talking to Trumpers Arazi Dec 2024 #50
Direct Link To PDF Of Committee's Report... MayReasonRule Dec 2024 #55
The GOP DID NOTHING ABOUT CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING, Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #57
The DOJ cares more about avoiding blowback than prosecuting the powerful. RockRaven Dec 2024 #58
Then it does not function as necessary and should be changed into Bluethroughu Dec 2024 #64
Yep and they're not going to deport children just their parents uponit7771 Dec 2024 #71
Florida's age of consent is 18. He should be charged, especially since he was in a position of public trust at the time. Lanius Dec 2024 #59
obstruction of Congress? oldtime dfl_er Dec 2024 #61
He did not have sex with a minor. Her RAPED her mercuryblues Dec 2024 #62
" and to have purchased and used illegal drugs, including from his Capitol Hill office", Hotler Dec 2024 #65
Just call them... orwell Dec 2024 #66
I don't think it's federal unless it crosses state lines. RandySF Dec 2024 #67
RAPED a minor phylny Dec 2024 #69
What's next for Matt? Job opening up at louis-t Dec 2024 #70
he could still be president Skittles Dec 2024 #80
EXTRA! EXTRA! MayReasonRule Dec 2024 #72
Congrats Matty boy LilElf70 Dec 2024 #73
Drugs, sex w/minors, prostitutes in his US congressional tax payer funded office. Irish_Dem Dec 2024 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Dec 2024 #75
In my state, Washington, pfitz59 Dec 2024 #76
He's a Trumper so nobody will care Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #77
LOCK HIM UP. That's what would happen to the rest of us. JFC. And why did FL dismiss this case?? Evolve Dammit Dec 2024 #78
seems like it was more important to go after Hunter Biden Skittles Dec 2024 #79
And Trump wanted to make this thug the U.S. AG. GoodRaisin Dec 2024 #81
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