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gab13by13

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3. I for one am not giving up on Ukraine

Sat Dec 21, 2024, 07:43 AM

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even when Musk deserts it.

Ukraine can fight more boldly, can launch more invasions into Russia once the United States has abandoned it. Putin's threat of nuclear war will not carry any weight with his 2 puppets in charge of the United States.

Ukraine will fight on without us, other nations need to fill our void.

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Another consideration if Trump gives Ukraine to Putin: [View all] no_hypocrisy Saturday OP

Good point, Trump will hand Putin one of the world's best fighting machines. Irish_Dem Saturday #1

There would never be such a conscription... 2naSalit Saturday #2

Exactly. Irish_Dem Saturday #5

siberia for any ukrainians i'm afraid rampartd Saturday #24

Wont happen after the past 3 yrs Callie1979 Saturday #8

Trump will hand Putin a country which hates his guts. Irish_Dem Saturday #12

I for one am not giving up on Ukraine gab13by13 Saturday #3

After the civil war you mean? BeyondGeography Saturday #4

I've been thinking the same. Irish_Dem Saturday #6

Same here. Taking Ukraine would be the easy part for Putin. Holding and controlling it would be the challenge. Midnight Writer Saturday #9

Putin's Ukraine invasion was one of the greatest intelligence failures in history. Irish_Dem Saturday #13

I hear what your saying. hydrolastic Saturday #26

Excellent point. A total failure of all US checks, balances, guardrails. Irish_Dem Saturday #28

Many of them thought it was a training exercise. Thats why Western militaries are better Callie1979 Saturday #32

Holding and controlling a very hostile county takes a lot of troops and money. Irish_Dem Saturday #14

This is so often ignored in discussion of Russian "gains" in Ukraine. Emrys Saturday #15

Russia will always try to take more territory, that's who they are. Walleye Saturday #16

That's certainly borne out by the current rhetoric from Kremlin-sponsored mouthpieces on Russia's media Emrys Saturday #17

I think you have described very well the situation. Walleye Saturday #19

I am a US military kid who lived in a US occupied country as a child. Irish_Dem Saturday #18

Well, now they own the president of the United States. That's raw power. Walleye Saturday #20

Exactly, it is a brilliant power play. Irish_Dem Saturday #21

They have been working on it pretty much all of my life, 75 years Walleye Saturday #22

They want the LAND. That area is full of natural resources. The towns are destroyed. Callie1979 Saturday #34

Soviets occupied East Germany moondust Saturday #30

Yes rigid control takes a lot of ground troops. And 250,000 brutal police and Stasi. Irish_Dem Saturday #31

There weren't any opposition forces in E Germany. Callie1979 Saturday #35

Well, Trump told EU representatives yesterday that he has no intention of abandoning Ukraine Emrys Saturday #7

Amen Callie1979 Saturday #11

I think there could be some mental masturbation going on between Trump and Putin right now. Irish_Dem Saturday #23

It all comes down to what Daddy Musk decides Pachamama Saturday #29

Step-Daddy Elon might end up falling from a great height... haele Saturday #37

Thats it! The WORST thing Putin can do is gloat. Trump will treat him like Pence. Callie1979 Saturday #36

Trump cannot "hand" UKR to Putin. UKR has a say in this as well as Europe Callie1979 Saturday #10

Putin is not marching into Poland edhopper Saturday #25

How exactly does Trump give Ukraine to Putin? Pachamama Saturday #27

Even Putin isn't stupid enough to invade Poland. RubyRose Saturday #33